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WE HAVE START!
Sounds like a bad solenoid, but I'd exchange the whole starter.
Peter - 302.832.8989
thescirocco.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lexan Blanchard" <lexan_122874@hotmail.com>
To: <jdbubb@verizon.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: WE HAVE START!
> Well, you just verified the list I made (I even thought about the fuel
> pump and the oil pump, man you just never know). I was afraid to admit
> it, but since the starter was the only variable that had changed, I sorta
> knew that was it. :P Just took it out of the loop and no more phantom
> running motor noise.
>
> So, guess this means I got a bad new starter? Please tell me there is
> something I can try other than removing it AGAIN and ordering a new one!!!
> And things were going so well! If getting it off and returning it to the
> point of purchase is the answer, I will get on that TONITE! I want this
> car road worthy in 2-3 weeks for a ROAD TRIP to Savannah, GA (will be way
> more fun to drive than my Montero Sport).
>
> Thanks!
> Lexan
>
>
>
>>From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@verizon.net>
>>To: "Lexan Blanchard" <lexan_122874@hotmail.com>,
>><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>Subject: Re: WE HAVE START!
>>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:32:31 -0500
>>
>>The only things I can thing of that'll run without the engine running are:
>>Frequency valve (as mentioned by Daun)
>>cooling fan ( I imagine you'd notice that!), the one thing that is
>>supposed to run without the ignition on if the engine's hot enough.
>>Heater fan?
>>Windshield washer pump
>>Starter motor!
>>
>>I'd think you'd be able to tell if it was most of those things simply by
>>where the sound was coming from.
>>I'm wondering if something's up with the starter though.
>>I think the first thing I would do would be to remove the big + cable from
>>the starter solenoid. Be very careful that the end doesn't touch anything
>>by wrapping it in tape. Then connect the battery. Everything else in the
>>car is powered via a smaller cable attached to the battery + so if
>>whatever it is is still running you know it isn't the starter.
>>If the starter is somehow getting current directly from the battery, not
>>via the solenoid, then the starter motor will run without engaging the
>>flywheel.
>>I guess I'm focusing on the starter because for some reason mine engaged
>>while I was driving the car. By the time I could drive the 1/2 mile or so
>>home and pull the wire off the solenoid, the starter was a hot stinking
>>mess!
>>Most of the other things I can think of, with the notable exception of the
>>starter motor, are designed to run continuously and wouldn't get overly
>>hot or smelly from running a short while.
>>Congratulations on your perseverance and your success starting your car!
>>Dan
>>
>>From: "Lexan Blanchard" <lexan_122874@hotmail.com>
>>To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:07 PM
>>Subject: WE HAVE START!
>>
>>
>> > For all those who have been following the no-start-saga, the car has
>> > officially been started (even if only briefly).
>> >
>> > Got the darned starter bushing out yesterday (after breaking a 1/2" tap
>>in
>> > half, having to get the broken tap out, oh the joy), and the new one in
>>with
>> > no problems (thanks to putting it into the freezer for an hour). FYI,
>>those
>> > who suggested I change the bushing were absolutely correct: when I got
>>it
>> > out, it was oddly-shaped and the side that was farthest in was
>> > disintegrated.
>> >
>> > Got the new starter on, battery charged and re-installed, and cranked
>>her
>> > up. KAAAAPOW! Sweet, sweet ignition! Then she cut off :( and some
>> > mysterious item kept running. I jumped out and disconnected the
>> > battery
>> > (because a car explosion inside the farm building would definitely get
>>my
>> > car evicted and we would both be hanging outside in the cold cold
>>weather).
>> >
>> > After all that excitement, I decided some celebratory retail therapy
>> > was
>>in
>> > order, so off to the mall and best buy/circuit city.
>> >
>> > OK, now, here is the new dilemma... Just went to try to start again,
>>and
>> > when I hooked up the battery, the mystery component is still running
>>(and
>> > yes, the battery sparked at me when i connected and disconnected).
>> > Definitely coming from the engine compartment, and sounds like a very
>>loud
>> > hummmmm. This item has not done this before yesterday's ignition, even
>> > though many attempts have been made at starting the car. Also, there
>> > is
>>a
>> > smell that came with the sound, sorta dirty burning, like the first
>> > time
>>you
>> > turn on your heater or a/c in the house (with a heat pump) after not
>>using
>> > it for several months.
>> >
>> > Here are the things I did when changing the starter, in case this helps
>>a
>> > diagnosis:
>> > 1. Obviously, replaced starter and bushing. Put wires back per
>> > diagram
>>in
>> > Bentley.
>> > 2. Disconnected and reconnected some hoses that impeded starter work.
>> > 3. Disconnecetd and reconnecetd fan connections.
>> > 4. Discovered and replaced bad fuse in panel (interior light).
>> >
>> > Any help is appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Lexan
>> >
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