MS diagram?

[vw_85roccoZ400 at hotmail.com (Brian Spinney)]

Don,

The reason you need a 16v pulley is because they are different then the 8v 
pulley which I am sure your aware of.  Trust me the 034efi stuff will not 
fit on a 8v crank pulley, I tried to make it work when waiting for my 16v 
crank pulley to should up.

The 034efi trigger wheel set up sits on the outter side of the crank pulley 
seen in this picture here.
<<http://www.034motorsport.com/images/16v_CrankTrigger3.jpg>>

Also from there picture it is hard to see where the sensor actually sits. 
The sensor does actually sit between teeth 10-14.  But as Dan said MS let 
you select any tooth and degree offset.
-Brian

85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI






----- Original Message ----- 
From: Don Walter
To: Brian Spinney
Cc: Mtl-Marc ; Org, Scirocco
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: MS diagram?


Here is how mine is mounted. 
http://scirocco.dyn.dhs.org/vw/list/Don_Walter/TEC%202/DSC02431.JPG  I had 
to cut 1/2" off the the two standoffs of the power steering bracket as it 
was made for a car without power steering.  The crank pulley is drilled and 
tapped into the back of the stock pulley and does not impede access to the 
12 pt crank nut.

Also I noticed that the 034 Motorsports places the sensor toward the bottom 
of the crank wheel.  I thought it was supposed to be around the 11(?) tooth 
before TDC like mine is or is that just for the TEC 2.

Why do you need 16V pulleys?  Why won't the 8V pulleys work?


On 7/25/06, Brian Spinney <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com> wrote:
Marc,

Yeah they just came out with it back in May!  I was the first on their order
list.  I have pictures of it installed on my car at home that I can email if
you would like to see them.

However you may run into a few problems trying to run it on your 8v so I
will give you a little heads up.

1. If you don't have power steering, you will need a power steering bracket.
I can mod you up one if you don't have one for a few dollars.  (I had to do
this for my car). It uses the PS bracket for mounting.

2. You will need the 16v pulleys and lower timing gear like I said before.
Or if you don't want to spend $125 on the gear and you have the pulley I can
make you a spacer for less than 1/2 the price of the gear.

3.  One last problem you will run into is with the trigger wheel on the
crank pulley you won't be able to get at the 19mm nut to turn the motor
over.  You could use the cam nut but that isn't recommended.  I am in the
process of making a tool for there trigger wheel assembly.

Thanks
-Brian

85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca >
To: "'Brian Spinney'" <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com>; "'Org, Scirocco'"
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org >
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: MS diagram?


> Thanks for the info, this is what I am looking for.
>
> I found it on their web site. << http://tinyurl.com/jyp35>>
>
> Not that expensive if you figure that you have no leg work to do. Its all
> there.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Marc
>
>
>>
>> 034 efi sells a 16v trigger wheels setup.  All that would be
>> needed is the 16v crank pulley and bigger lower timing belt
>> gear.  It will run you $200 though.
>> -Brian
>>
>> 85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca >
>> To: "'Org, Scirocco'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:08 PM
>> Subject: RE: MS diagram?
>>
>>
>> > --snip--
>> > Mr Bubb said:
>> >> ... hall sensor input and now that I think about it you ain't
>> >> using that anyway since you're going to be using a crank trigger.
>> >>
>> >
>> > How do you install a crank trigger on a vw motor?
>> >
>> > I am building a stroker 8V motor, and after seeing Timbo's
>> demonstration
>> > at
>> > Cincy, I am sure this is a cool project for me to do. By
>> trade I am an
>> > electronic tech, so wiring, soldering, etc is just about
>> second nature to
>> > me
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> >
>> > Marc
>> >
>> >
>
>
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Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at 
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Beetle (sold)