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MS diagram?

One thing that I did do was to crank up - way up - the fuel at higher RPMs
and Higher MAP values and boy does she fly now.

On 7/25/06, Dan Bubb <jdbubb@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> IIRC TEC II needs the crank trigger set to a very specific position.
> MS lets you select any tooth as the trigger and any degree offset from
> that.
> You can also run almost any trigger wheel configuration with MS, 4 teeth,
> 36-1, 60-2, blah, blah, blah.
> BTW, did you ever get a chance to verify that the TEC II ignition advance
> matches the actual ignition advance?
> Just curious because there's another guy with a high compression 16V that
> isn't able to run much advance at higher engine speeds.
> Dan
>
>
> From: "Don Walter" <dswalterwi@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: MS diagram?
>
>
> > Here is how mine is mounted.
> > http://scirocco.dyn.dhs.org/vw/list/Don_Walter/TEC%202/DSC02431.JPG  I
> had
> > to cut 1/2" off the the two standoffs of the power steering bracket as
> it
> > was made for a car without power steering.  The crank pulley is drilled
> > and
> > tapped into the back of the stock pulley and does not impede access to
> the
> > 12 pt crank nut.
> >
> > Also I noticed that the 034 Motorsports places the sensor toward the
> > bottom
> > of the crank wheel.  I thought it was supposed to be around the 11(?)
> > tooth
> > before TDC like mine is or is that just for the TEC 2.
> >
> > Why do you need 16V pulleys?  Why won't the 8V pulleys work?
> >
> >
> > On 7/25/06, Brian Spinney <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Marc,
> >>
> >> Yeah they just came out with it back in May!  I was the first on their
> >> order
> >> list.  I have pictures of it installed on my car at home that I can
> email
> >> if
> >> you would like to see them.
> >>
> >> However you may run into a few problems trying to run it on your 8v so
> I
> >> will give you a little heads up.
> >>
> >> 1. If you don't have power steering, you will need a power steering
> >> bracket.
> >> I can mod you up one if you don't have one for a few dollars.  (I had
> to
> >> do
> >> this for my car). It uses the PS bracket for mounting.
> >>
> >> 2. You will need the 16v pulleys and lower timing gear like I said
> >> before.
> >> Or if you don't want to spend $125 on the gear and you have the pulley
> I
> >> can
> >> make you a spacer for less than 1/2 the price of the gear.
> >>
> >> 3.  One last problem you will run into is with the trigger wheel on the
> >> crank pulley you won't be able to get at the 19mm nut to turn the motor
> >> over.  You could use the cam nut but that isn't recommended.  I am in
> the
> >> process of making a tool for there trigger wheel assembly.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Brian
> >>
> >> 85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
> >> To: "'Brian Spinney'" <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com>; "'Org, Scirocco'"
> >> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:18 PM
> >> Subject: RE: MS diagram?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Thanks for the info, this is what I am looking for.
> >> >
> >> > I found it on their web site. <<http://tinyurl.com/jyp35>>
> >> >
> >> > Not that expensive if you figure that you have no leg work to do. Its
> >> all
> >> > there.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again.
> >> >
> >> > Marc
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> 034 efi sells a 16v trigger wheels setup.  All that would be
> >> >> needed is the 16v crank pulley and bigger lower timing belt
> >> >> gear.  It will run you $200 though.
> >> >> -Brian
> >> >>
> >> >> 85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
> >> >> To: "'Org, Scirocco'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:08 PM
> >> >> Subject: RE: MS diagram?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > --snip--
> >> >> > Mr Bubb said:
> >> >> >> ... hall sensor input and now that I think about it you ain't
> >> >> >> using that anyway since you're going to be using a crank trigger.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How do you install a crank trigger on a vw motor?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am building a stroker 8V motor, and after seeing Timbo's
> >> >> demonstration
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > Cincy, I am sure this is a cool project for me to do. By
> >> >> trade I am an
> >> >> > electronic tech, so wiring, soldering, etc is just about
> >> >> second nature to
> >> >> > me
> >> >> > :-)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Marc
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
> > --
> > Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
> > 1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
> > 1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
> > 1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
> > http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
> > 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
> > 1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
> > 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
> > 1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
> > 1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
> > 1969 Beetle (sold)
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-- 
Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Beetle (sold)