MS diagram?

[jdbubb at verizon.net (Dan Bubb)]

IIRC TEC II needs the crank trigger set to a very specific position.
MS lets you select any tooth as the trigger and any degree offset from that. 
You can also run almost any trigger wheel configuration with MS, 4 teeth, 
36-1, 60-2, blah, blah, blah.
BTW, did you ever get a chance to verify that the TEC II ignition advance 
matches the actual ignition advance?
Just curious because there's another guy with a high compression 16V that 
isn't able to run much advance at higher engine speeds.
Dan


From: "Don Walter" <dswalterwi@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: MS diagram?


> Here is how mine is mounted.
> http://scirocco.dyn.dhs.org/vw/list/Don_Walter/TEC%202/DSC02431.JPG  I had
> to cut 1/2" off the the two standoffs of the power steering bracket as it
> was made for a car without power steering.  The crank pulley is drilled 
> and
> tapped into the back of the stock pulley and does not impede access to the
> 12 pt crank nut.
>
> Also I noticed that the 034 Motorsports places the sensor toward the 
> bottom
> of the crank wheel.  I thought it was supposed to be around the 11(?) 
> tooth
> before TDC like mine is or is that just for the TEC 2.
>
> Why do you need 16V pulleys?  Why won't the 8V pulleys work?
>
>
> On 7/25/06, Brian Spinney <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Marc,
>>
>> Yeah they just came out with it back in May!  I was the first on their
>> order
>> list.  I have pictures of it installed on my car at home that I can email
>> if
>> you would like to see them.
>>
>> However you may run into a few problems trying to run it on your 8v so I
>> will give you a little heads up.
>>
>> 1. If you don't have power steering, you will need a power steering
>> bracket.
>> I can mod you up one if you don't have one for a few dollars.  (I had to
>> do
>> this for my car). It uses the PS bracket for mounting.
>>
>> 2. You will need the 16v pulleys and lower timing gear like I said 
>> before.
>> Or if you don't want to spend $125 on the gear and you have the pulley I
>> can
>> make you a spacer for less than 1/2 the price of the gear.
>>
>> 3.  One last problem you will run into is with the trigger wheel on the
>> crank pulley you won't be able to get at the 19mm nut to turn the motor
>> over.  You could use the cam nut but that isn't recommended.  I am in the
>> process of making a tool for there trigger wheel assembly.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Brian
>>
>> 85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
>> To: "'Brian Spinney'" <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com>; "'Org, Scirocco'"
>> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:18 PM
>> Subject: RE: MS diagram?
>>
>>
>> > Thanks for the info, this is what I am looking for.
>> >
>> > I found it on their web site. <<http://tinyurl.com/jyp35>>
>> >
>> > Not that expensive if you figure that you have no leg work to do. Its
>> all
>> > there.
>> >
>> > Thanks again.
>> >
>> > Marc
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 034 efi sells a 16v trigger wheels setup.  All that would be
>> >> needed is the 16v crank pulley and bigger lower timing belt
>> >> gear.  It will run you $200 though.
>> >> -Brian
>> >>
>> >> 85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
>> >> To: "'Org, Scirocco'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:08 PM
>> >> Subject: RE: MS diagram?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > --snip--
>> >> > Mr Bubb said:
>> >> >> ... hall sensor input and now that I think about it you ain't
>> >> >> using that anyway since you're going to be using a crank trigger.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > How do you install a crank trigger on a vw motor?
>> >> >
>> >> > I am building a stroker 8V motor, and after seeing Timbo's
>> >> demonstration
>> >> > at
>> >> > Cincy, I am sure this is a cool project for me to do. By
>> >> trade I am an
>> >> > electronic tech, so wiring, soldering, etc is just about
>> >> second nature to
>> >> > me
>> >> > :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers.
>> >> >
>> >> > Marc
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
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> Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
> 1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
> 1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
> 1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
> http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
> 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
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> 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
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