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Shine rear swaybar dimension & metallurgical advice needed + (ATTN: Ron P.
this is bolted to the front of teh trailing arm?
what handling characteristics does it give the car?
On 8/5/06, Don Walter <dswalterwi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think I have one of those on the Black Scirocco I bought from Ben
> Harder.
> If anyone needs pictures let me know and I'll take some.
>
> On 8/5/06, Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > 2.5" U channel, 5/8" depth, 5/16" thick.
> >
> > Can't upload to my corner of Al's space...so here's what I had written:
> >
> > -qty. (4) 3/8-16 bolts, 1" long, with nuts, washers, lockwashers, all
> SAE
> > Grade 8 (forgive us for
> > not using Metric-sized fasteners)
> > -We drilled two 3/8" dia. holes in each end, 1" in from the end
> (therefore
> > 39" apart), 0.75" in
> > from the sides (therefore 1" apart, centered in the channel).
> > -For protection, I like Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer (even though the
> > metal was not rusty), then
> > some Rustoleum Hammer Finish paint. I chose gray. You go nuts.
> > -The bar was positioned as shown on the leading edge of the trailing
> arm,
> > centered fore/aft and
> > side/side. It was clamped in place with C-clamps and the hole locations
> in
> > the bar were
> > transferred to the trailing arm.
> > -The material in the trailing arm is not as nasty as we'd been led to
> > believe. You can go through
> > with the 3/8" drill without pilot drilling; however pilot drilling will
> > increase accuracy as the
> > 3/8" drill may want to wander a bit, even if the location has been
> > centerpunched or centerdrilled.
> >
> > -We then bolted the rearmost hole first, then the forwardmost, for each
> > side.
> > -Done.
> >
> > The cool thing about this bar is that it takes no welding or other
> > fabricating, just hacksawing
> > and drilling. Ben and I wanted to make sure that anyone could build one
> > of these, and we've met
> > that goal. Also, differing rates of torsional stiffness can be acheived
> > simply by changing the
> > spec of the bar...use a different size piece of channel. We decided on
> > the bolt pattern so that
> > we could go to different sizes easily, and swap bars between our cars.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > --- Allyn <amalventano1@tds.net> wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC, it was either 2" or 2.5" 'u' channel.
> > > Al
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark F. [mailto:mk1mark@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:59 PM
> > > > To: Allyn
> > > > Cc: Rick Kellner; scirocco list
> > > > Subject: Re: Shine rear swaybar dimension & metallurgical
> > > > advice needed + (ATTN: Ron P.)
> > > >
> > > > On 8/4/06, Allyn <amalventano1@tds.net> wrote:
> > > > > Ron used a 'different' piece of steel for that task.
> > > > > I don't think its on rons site. I dug around the files
> > > > locally (his site is on this system), and came up nill.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I found one of Ron's posts on the subject in the archives,
> > > > but the link to the pic no longer exists. IIRC he used a
> > > > piece of channel, right? Ron, if you're around, got any
> > > > pics/specs? Did you ever get to directly compare it to a
> > > > Shine bar on the track?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Mark.
> > > > 75
> > > > 82 - in search of stiff ass end
> > > > 82 Caddy
> > > > 93 Chevy/Kia 1/2 ton
> > >
> > >
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> Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
> 1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
> 1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
> 1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
> http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
> 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
> 1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
> 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
> 1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
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