shim kit on a turbo 16v

[roccit_53 at hotmail.com (C Boyko)]

One of the high powered 9A turbo  A1 cars (I think it was the turbo Rabbit) 
had used the front beam from an A2 car, which has that big fat puck style 
motor mount. The real reason they said they did it was it shifted the whole 
engine forward a few inches, to get weight over the drive wheels. I'd guess 
it to be in the high 200/low 300ish hp range. That one I may even have 
pictures of. But of course, that still doesn't help you with the tranny. May 
help save the frame though.
Cathy (and just yanking your chains with the gender thing...)

>From: "Derrick flo" <derrickmd18@verizon.net>
>To: "C Boyko" 
><roccit_53@hotmail.com>,<rhock99@epix.net>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: shim kit on a turbo 16v
>Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 02:00:36 -0800
>
>yea. I mostly have the know how to take it to 350 hp I'm mostly looking for
>others opinions and experiences.  sorry I didn't say guys or ladies.  I can
>build a motor that can do it I just wanted to do it on a stock bottom end.
>its not going to be a stock head my all means I'm going to do it up.  
>tranny
>wish I know what I have to do to support it and got it to take the shock if
>launching off the line.
>If I wanted to do 350 hp daily driving I would just get a shim kit, p&p
>head, 3 angle valve job, autotech valve springs and retainers, t3/t4E 
>turbo,
>3in exhaust and custom intake, 55lb injectors, and poly mounts all around 
>so
>there is no power loss.  but thins setup i mentioned is daily driving
>meaning 1-2 shift normal 3rd gear boost goes up to 15 psi.  i say 3rd gear
>because 3rd gear its MUCH less if a shock on the tranny internals.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@hotmail.com>
>To: <derrickmd18@verizon.net>; <rhock99@epix.net>; 
><scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:12 PM
>Subject: Re: shim kit on a turbo 16v
>
>
> > Well, you didn't ask the girls, but I have seen the innards of more than
> > enough "stock trannies" on VWs with much less power than yours. (OMG
>that's
> > a ton of power to stick! ) Just remember that NHRA (and any 1/4 mile)
>events
> > will shift the grief somewhere, when your tires and the track stick well
>to
> > each other. I haven't run fast enough for this to be an issue, not yet.
>And
> > Denny just toasts clutches in my 16V. Maybe you'll luck out and snap 
>axles
> > like the Hondas. I'll talk trannies with the 260 hp MkI next time I see
>him,
> > see what he's done.
> >
> > Cathy
> > NCRA "Power Class" points winner 2003
> > CSCS "FF Class" points winner 2003
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Derrick flo" <derrickmd18@verizon.net>
> > >To: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Subject: Re: shim kit on a turbo 16v
> > >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:57:42 -0800
> > >
> > >well I guys may think its crazy but I'm shooting for 350 crank HP on 
>the
> > >stock bottom end.  I'm currently running a 4K tranny and its gets up
>there
> > >quick.  I have a Saab turbo installed and it was set at base at 4 psi 
>and
> > >at
> > >WOT 10 psi through a tec 2.  was running that until my clutch said no 
>no.
> > >and started to slip.  now I'm at 4 psi until I install my 6 puck.  but 
>I
> > >figured why go in twice when I can go in once.  I'm thinking about a 
>02A
> > >conversion or taking my 9A spare tranny and beefing it up.  my 9A 
>tranny
> > >has
> > >a busted second gear so I have to go in to repair it anyway so I was
> > >thinking about doing things while I'm in there.
> > >
> > >I'm upgrading my turbo to a t3/t4E in two months.  the car is mostly
>going
> > >to be a daily driver and I plan on racing it at NHRA events.  so I'm
> > >somewhat erre about the 02A because they are somewhat hardier to come 
>by
> > >then the 020.  I can get 020 tranny at junkyards all day long.
> > >
> > >What do you guys think about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>
> > >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:15 AM
> > >Subject: Re: shim kit on a turbo 16v
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think it all depends on your power levels.  What kinda turbo setup
>we
> > >talking here?  Full street ~200 hp?  Invest in a bolt kit for the
> > >differential, and do basic tranny maintenance (fluid) and you'll be 
>fine.
> > >(Of course, you'll still want a shim kit or the Phantom Grip, I can't
>give
> > >advice there)
> > > > Bigger power ~250+ hp?  May require a better diff (Quaiffe) and some
> > >tranny work (gear strengthening, particularly 3rd and 4th), along with
> > >stronger driveshafts if you want it to last.  Take note, some guys seem
>to
> > >make do with stock drivetrain and lots of power, but it mayjust be 
>luck.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
> > > > > Date: 2004/01/10 Sat AM 04:02:48 EST
> > > > > To: "Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > > Subject: RE: shim kit on a turbo 16v
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe the kit you are referring to is the peloquin shim kit 
>and
>it
> > >is
> > > > > (last time I heard) was $80 or so from someone here on the list
> > >(peter??).
> > > > > BUT, if you are wanting to beef up the tranny I would start with a
>16v
> > >trans
> > > > > (I like the gearing in the AGB) then decide what type of  diff you
> > >want
> > >to
> > > > > go with.  Opinions on this list will differ but I think for the
>money
> > >the
> > > > > phantom ain't bad but you also have to consider what you are going
>to
> > >be
> > > > > doing.  For drag racing with slicks, I'd definitely shuck out the
> > >extra
> > > > > dough for the quaife as I bet the slicks will eat the phantom up
> > >pretty
> > > > > quickly but if your just gonna zip around the streets and beat up 
>on
> > >some
> > > > > Honduhs and want to save a $500 then maybe the phantom will work 
>for
> > >you.
> > > > > There are other diffs out there but most are generic and may need
>some
> > >work
> > > > > to fit unlike the quaife but the quaife also comes with an 
>unlimited
> > > > > warranty that even covers racing so you could swap the thing from
> > >trans
> > >to
> > > > > trans as you change vehicles.  I have never broken down and bought
>one
> > > > > myself but I have driven and ridden in other's cars that have them
>and
> > >they
> > > > > are nice!!  The shim kit you are talking about is about the 
>cheapest
> > >and
> > > > > easiest upgrade but it's effectiveness is questionable although
>better
> > >than
> > > > > stock.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sure others will have more input on this subject as well.  
>HTH!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Derrick flo
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:59 PM
> > > > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > Subject: shim kit on a turbo 16v
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a scirocco 16v turbo and I want to beef up the tranny a
>little.
> > >I
> > > > > was looking at the shim kit for 100 and I was wondering if it will
> > >beef
> > >up
> > > > > the tranny?
> > > > > Also I was looking a the phantom grip differential and wanted to
>know
> > >how it
> > > > > was?  I'm going to be rebuilding a 9A tranny and I wanted to know
>what
> > >to
> > > > > put in while I'm in there.
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