16V 2.0 Pickup lives, sort of... Need help ASAP..

[mr.utility at highstream.net (David Utley)]

No, not trite...  I have not played with the 16Vs nearly as much as their high-
flow challenged brothers, but I am learning...  :-)

More comments/questions below...

Quoting Jeff Toomasson <area53@validpath.com>:

> Dave -
> 
> This may sound trite, but if you're at all suspicious about the timing, I'd
> do each timing setup over from scratch so you can eliminate that from the
> equation. Since you're not the person who asembled the setup in the first
> place, I would recommend this even more. All the way to remove the timing
> belt cover and re-checking the marks...yes, you should check the cam timing
> too!  sorry... :)
> 
> Couple things to check (which you may already have):
> 


> 1) Ensure your TDC is true and not for #4

I think we have done this, by using the -0- mark on the flywheel.  THe 
flywheels on the the 16Vs are the same as 8Vs in that they can only go on one 
way, right?  In other words, if I check for TDC by using #1 piston movement, 
and aligned the -0- on the flywheel to the mark on the bell-housing at the same 
time, I would indeed be at TDC, correct?

> 2) There are two arrangements that the distro can be screwed in to allow
> further adjustment. Try the other and leave the distro a tad loose. While
> you have buddy cranking the engine (or running), rotate the distro until you
> "find the groove" where it's running its best.

I am not sure I understand this, but my mechanic friend prolly will.  I will 
show it to him and see if he understands...

Thanks for the help...

David Utley

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Utley" <mr.utility@highstream.net>
> Cc: "'scirocco list'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:41 PM
> Subject: OT: 16V 2.0 Pickup lives, sort of... Need help ASAP..
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >   I actually have some 16V qyestions to ask, wooohhoooo!
> >   The vehicle in question is an '82 p/up with a Passat 2.0 16V and
> Scirocco
> > CIS-E FI...
> >   Okay, my friend Don and I got the pickup to run, despite the P.O.s best
> > attempts to put the thing together wrong.  The thing would start and run,
> > but you really had to work with the throttle to get it to accelerate, and
> > the sucker is SO LOUD...  Since it would not accelerate easily at all, we
> > began to look at the timing.  After removing #1 spark plug and checking
> for
> > TDC (esp since the marks at the flywheel could not be seen), we saw that
> the
> > cam was retarded by one tooth.  We fixed that and reinstalled, and ran it
> > up.  It ran much better, but it still was not right.  We then checked the
> > timing, and saw that the dist. could not be advanced any more because
> there
> > was no more room left in the attachment slots.  Also, the timing mark on
> the
> > cam gear is not -precisely-pointed at the mark on the valve cover.  It is
> > retarded  about half a tooth.  These two things lead us to believe that
> the
> > cams themselves are not timed properly.  Does that seem like what is
> > happening here?  The trouble that we now experience is that the thing
> still
> > does not want to rev like it really should.  It still sputters a bit, esp.
> > if you mash on it from an idler...
> >
> > Don wanted me to ask you all if this was worth the effort of re-timing the
> > cams...  I think the answer is yes, but I too am interested in what all
> you
> > think needs to be done...
> >
> > Any answers are appreciated, especially the quick ones, as we will be
> > attempting to put things right starting noon Sunday, central time...
> Thanks
> > very much for your time!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >    David Utley
> >
> > PS--  A first!  Although I have 7 VWs, I will for the first time have 1.5
> > running vehicles, woooooo-stinking-hooooo!  :)
> >
> >
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