16V 2.0 Pickup lives, sort of... Need help ASAP..

[area53 at validpath.com (Jeff Toomasson)]

The flywheel can actually go on opposite of what it's supposed to if the
dowel pins have been removed previously by some hack...Also, some
aftermarket flywheels are not marked (though it seems you don't have this
issue).

With regards to the second distro installation config, look at the distro
location with it removed - you should see four bolt holes as opposed to two.
Install the distro without the bolts and without quite engaging the cam.
Rotate it so you get an idea of the two fastening config's. You'll just have
to experiment with each pair once you start running. I'm 85% confident that
this is your issue as I had to deal with this the first time I did my 2L
swap...

FWIW - I still don't understand why there was a second set put there...

G/L - Jeff
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Utley" <mr.utility@highstream.net>
To: "Jeff Toomasson" <area53@validpath.com>
Cc: "'scirocco list'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: 16V 2.0 Pickup lives, sort of... Need help ASAP..


> No, not trite...  I have not played with the 16Vs nearly as much as their
high-
> flow challenged brothers, but I am learning...  :-)
>
> More comments/questions below...
>
> Quoting Jeff Toomasson <area53@validpath.com>:
>
> > Dave -
> >
> > This may sound trite, but if you're at all suspicious about the timing,
I'd
> > do each timing setup over from scratch so you can eliminate that from
the
> > equation. Since you're not the person who asembled the setup in the
first
> > place, I would recommend this even more. All the way to remove the
timing
> > belt cover and re-checking the marks...yes, you should check the cam
timing
> > too!  sorry... :)
> >
> > Couple things to check (which you may already have):
> >
>
>
> > 1) Ensure your TDC is true and not for #4
>
> I think we have done this, by using the -0- mark on the flywheel.  THe
> flywheels on the the 16Vs are the same as 8Vs in that they can only go on
one
> way, right?  In other words, if I check for TDC by using #1 piston
movement,
> and aligned the -0- on the flywheel to the mark on the bell-housing at the
same
> time, I would indeed be at TDC, correct?
>
> > 2) There are two arrangements that the distro can be screwed in to allow
> > further adjustment. Try the other and leave the distro a tad loose.
While
> > you have buddy cranking the engine (or running), rotate the distro until
you
> > "find the groove" where it's running its best.
>
> I am not sure I understand this, but my mechanic friend prolly will.  I
will
> show it to him and see if he understands...
>
> Thanks for the help...
>
> David Utley
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David Utley" <mr.utility@highstream.net>
> > Cc: "'scirocco list'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:41 PM
> > Subject: OT: 16V 2.0 Pickup lives, sort of... Need help ASAP..
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >   I actually have some 16V qyestions to ask, wooohhoooo!
> > >   The vehicle in question is an '82 p/up with a Passat 2.0 16V and
> > Scirocco
> > > CIS-E FI...
> > >   Okay, my friend Don and I got the pickup to run, despite the P.O.s
best
> > > attempts to put the thing together wrong.  The thing would start and
run,
> > > but you really had to work with the throttle to get it to accelerate,
and
> > > the sucker is SO LOUD...  Since it would not accelerate easily at all,
we
> > > began to look at the timing.  After removing #1 spark plug and
checking
> > for
> > > TDC (esp since the marks at the flywheel could not be seen), we saw
that
> > the
> > > cam was retarded by one tooth.  We fixed that and reinstalled, and ran
it
> > > up.  It ran much better, but it still was not right.  We then checked
the
> > > timing, and saw that the dist. could not be advanced any more because
> > there
> > > was no more room left in the attachment slots.  Also, the timing mark
on
> > the
> > > cam gear is not -precisely-pointed at the mark on the valve cover.  It
is
> > > retarded  about half a tooth.  These two things lead us to believe
that
> > the
> > > cams themselves are not timed properly.  Does that seem like what is
> > > happening here?  The trouble that we now experience is that the thing
> > still
> > > does not want to rev like it really should.  It still sputters a bit,
esp.
> > > if you mash on it from an idler...
> > >
> > > Don wanted me to ask you all if this was worth the effort of re-timing
the
> > > cams...  I think the answer is yes, but I too am interested in what
all
> > you
> > > think needs to be done...
> > >
> > > Any answers are appreciated, especially the quick ones, as we will be
> > > attempting to put things right starting noon Sunday, central time...
> > Thanks
> > > very much for your time!
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >    David Utley
> > >
> > > PS--  A first!  Although I have 7 VWs, I will for the first time have
1.5
> > > running vehicles, woooooo-stinking-hooooo!  :)
> > >
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