OT kinda......still VW though!

[MK1Scirocco16v at comcast.net (Dave Ewing)]

The Oettinger (afaik) intake will only fit the Oettinger head.  I might be
wrong here but I thought that.  Maybe the intake mounts are the same??

As far as other options, I know I'll get flamed for this but I always
thought that the price of the individual TBs with a stand-alone fuel system
didn't warrant the output.  I may be wrong but I would say you would have
about $5k in a motor like that.  What's the tally up to, Scott??

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scourge" <scourge@cogeco.ca>
To: "Rocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: OT kinda......still VW though!


> Thanx for the reply,
> First off I must defend myself!!   lol I know the intake will not increase
> CR. The intake stuff was what he was having trouble sourcing out. The
motor
> will be getting bored out a bit..not sure how much, head milled, massive
> P&P, big cams(dunno what he's decided on). I wasn't aware they made a 50mm
> intake for A2's.
> He wants as much flow as he can get. I believe I saw an Oettinger(sp?)
> intake on a 16v before....what else is there along that line?
>
> What about open throttle bodies? emissions issues?
advantages/disadvantages
> for power, torque, powerband, etc.?
>
> thanx again
>  -The George
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:33 AM
> Subject: Re: OT kinda......still VW though!
>
>
> > On the intake manifold you can do one of three things.  One is to
extrude
> > hone a 1.8L intake, you can use a 2.0L 16v intake which flows about 7%
> more
> > (42mm as apposed to 40mm intake runners) or you can put out the bigger
> bucks
> > to get a euro manifold which for an A2, they aren't as expensive as an
A1
> > (Scirocco).  Probably half the price if you shop around ($200 - $300+).
> >
> > As far as the TB goes, the stock 16v TB flows better than the Nospeed or
> > Audi 5000 TB (same exact thing) and the Webber is questionable.  It does
> > take a little getting use to but if you put a big return spring it makes
> it
> > easier (on the Webber TB).  Don't shuck out mega bucks for the Nuespeed
> > though, not worth it, even on an 8v as you can port the intake and slap
on
> a
> > Audi 5000 TB with better performance than the Nospeed with the adapter
> > plate.
> >
> > Flow is nice but it doesn't up the compression as the valve timing will
> only
> > let in so much unless you do this with a cam even then compression
upping
> is
> > questionable (probably get some but not much).  What he needs to do if
he
> > truly wants mass CR is to mill the head down to it's limmits.  I think
> it's
> > something like 40 thousandths but the machine shop will know where the
> limit
> > mark is (hard to explain).  I have heard (only heard) that you can go
past
> > the limit mark but you will definately have to move the t-belt tensioner
> > bolt on the front of the head as the t-belt won't tighten (had mine
milled
> > to the limit and could swing the tensioner around full circle--any more
> and
> > it wouldn't tighten enough!!).
> >
> > HTH!!
> >
> > Dave
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scourge" <scourge@cogeco.ca>
> > To: "Rocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:51 PM
> > Subject: OT kinda......still VW though!
> >
> >
> > A freind of mine asked to find some stuff out for him......
> > He's building up a 2L 16v for his MK2 golf. And want's to go high
> > compression, N/A.
> > Basically I just want to find out what's out there for big ass 16v TB's
> and
> > intake manifolds.
> > I know weber and (shudder)neuspeed makes TBs. But I'm not sure about
> intake
> > maniflolds.
> >
> > Thanx
> >  -The George
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