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Even though Steffen made no claims for the cam, other than identifying the
engine it came out of, the fact that he specifically mentions "139hp" leads
me to believe that he is making a conscious attempt to make it as easy as
possible for the prospective buyer to assume things about the item that are
not true.
It's called "implication".
He is NOT 100% in the right, he probably IS 100% within the law.
Is it our duty to protect the people who don't know the facts?  I dunno. I
suppose that's an individual call.

Larry

> [soapbox]
> FWIW, I got into a big debate on this very issue some months ago on the
> Vortex.  I stood up for Steffen because *HE DID NOTHING WRONG*.  He
> makes no claims about performance, period.  I think what's questionable
> is "protecting" fellow VW enthusiasts by harming Steffen
> (uhhh...another enthusiast and parts source, hmmm} by warding off his
> prospective buyers.  I made the analogy of a swap meet: if I had that
> cam on my table, making no claims and at a fair price, and you stood in
> front of my table "informing" everyone who looked at it, I'd sooner or
> later pop you in the mouth.
>
> And did anyone consider that Steffen may not have any idea about what
> the US-model cam specs are vs the Euro cars?  He doesn't live here or
> have our spec cars.  All he has is a cam to sell.
>
> This is capitalism, boys and girls, do your own damned homework and
> caveat emptor.  Even though you might like to think Steffen is a little
> close to the line (as do I, frankly), read closely: He's 100% in the
> right. [/soapbox].
>
> Ron
>
>
> --- Dirk Schneider <SCIROCCO2@t-online.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > usually I don't care about off topic posts but
> > reading the posts about Steffen, I feel like I have to say someting
> > now.
> >
> > I have to admit that Steffen's auctions are a bit "LOUD"
> > and he still uses my turning VW logo ( that is O.K. for me
> > meanwhile.. :-)  )
> >
> > looking at that particular auction I can't understand the noise about
> > it.
> >
> > - it's doubtless an "Euro" camshaft as it is from an Euro Scirocco.
> >   you're confused because you see everything through your "USA eyes"
> > ?
> >   Doubtless the USA IS the most important country in the world ( and
> > IMHO the best one too .... )
> >   but you have to be aware there are some other countries and
> > continents too.
> >   After all this egocentric point of view that the bidders might
> > have, can't be the sellers problem.
> >
> > - the KR do have machines have 139 PS, I own one myself.
> >   Nobody who has a working brain claims that the 139 PS are generated
> > from the outlet camshaft.
> >  It is misleading ? Go and get some general knowledge about VW's
> > before installing camshafts
> >  and stop whining about e-Bay auctions. This is real life and no
> > Kindergarten..
> >
> > - he never said that the camshaft would increase power
> >
> > - the starting bid was $1 and not $100
> >
> > -  in case you bid on something, you should know what you're bidding
> > on
> >    the item in this auction is clearly described, the clown is not
> > the seller but the bidder :-)
> >
> > - some people do need an exaust camshaft, because it is worn.
> >   For $41 total with shipping included still a fair replacement.
> >
> > - $40 for shipping a camshaft to the USA is correct.
> >   Packets start here with $35 from 0-1 kg weight, then $40 and so
> > on...
> >   I shipped a camshaft ( intake ;-)) to Nightshadow a few months ago,
> >   and I can confirm the $40 for s/h.
> >
> >
> > I know Steffen as a very reliable , helpful & friendly guy.
> > He never ripped me off with anything I bought from him or sold to
> > him.
> >
> >
> > have a nice weekend
> >
> > Dirk
> > CORRADO G60 www.Scirocco2.de/my_corrado_1.jpg
> > Scirocco 16V GT II '92 darkgreen-pearl  www.GT-2.de/GT2.htm
> > Scirocco 16V GTX "CABRIOLET" www.Scirocco2.de/hornstein.htm
> >
> > http://www.Scirocco2.de
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Victor Farren" <farrenator@yahoo.com>
> > To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:44 PM
> > Subject: ebay scam
> >
> >
> > anyone know who this clown is?  He is trying to sell a
> > 16v Euro 'exhaust' cam.  Talk about some bull$hit.
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1842783455
> >
> > This isn't the same clown who was ripping people off
> > about 6 months back is it?  Sorry, but I can't
> > remember his name, but he changed his email a couple
> > of times because someone on the list was tracking him
> > and giving him $hit for being a scam artist.  Some of
> > the listers who have been around a while might
> > remember.
> >
> > Victor
> >
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