Re: porsche..was 0-60 SB bilstiens, now a comparison

["dalewitt" <dalewitt@express-news.net>]

a highly modified rocco can give a pre 87 944 fits.  Now your 911 is a completely different
story........it rules.  I am currently looking at a 78 911...the only thing between it and me is the
money (7k)

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> out of the box yes, but I'd hve to opinionate that taking the total
> money spent on a porsche 944 turbo, you can make a Corrado go just as 
> fast, if not faster. Though fwd you can make the suspension handle
> like a rwd, and again, still carry 4 people. You give me 10gs and I'd 
> buy a G60 corrado, take the remaining 5gs and net 300hp, whereas i'd 
> be sitting on a stock porsche. Don't get me wrong I LOVE Porsches
> especially my friends twin turbo 400something hp is it? theres no
> comparason, but for that ammount of money I can have an awd
> 350+hp Corrado..again and carry 4 people..oh and not get my car
> stolen or keyed as easily =] =] Maybe it's jut me but i'd turn down
> Porsche for a comparable VW. (don't forget insurance) I'm not a
> millionaire  yet.
>
> The scirocco in no way can compare to a Porsche no matter what you do 
> to it, nor can any other VW..well maybe an audi TT? cept the Corrado,
> it's soo damn close to the Porsche legacy in styling, handling and
> prowess.
>
> Ryan
> on a note about Corrados, supposidly going to have someone from
> Florida come over tomorrow to look at and buy, he sounds serious,
> tonight may be the last time I get to drive her, sniff, damn I'm
> gonna miss my Corrado, so I ate a  modified Probe v6 today =]
> Spent 3 hours detailing it, and noted EVERY possible flaw with the
> car, maybe if i can come up with enough problems (thing is there are 
> no major problems and hardly any minor ones) he wont want it and i'll 
> get to drive it a bit more.
>
>
> > Porsche - there is no Substitute.
> >
> > I presently own a 68 911, an 83 944 (making into a track car),
> > an 88 Scirocco 16V, And about 6 other Mcs. foreign cars.
> >
> > If you have ever driven a 944 (especially a turbo) you will realize that
> > there really isn't any comparison between a Corrado and A Porsche.
> >
> > The 944 Was Designed from the get-go to be fast, where as the Corrado
> > (now don't take any offense, a Corrado is a nice car in its own right) Is
> > a souped up Golf A-2 chassis. Ft wheel drive is nice, but you need rear
> > wheel (or all wheel) drive to go *really* fast.
> >
> > There are alot of +'s and -'s to both cars-
> >
> > 944 (NT)-
> > + Ft engine, rear transmission,  49/51 weight distribution
> > Very low center of gravity, Big brakes, tires, HD everything
> > Built to go fast for extended periods of time. One of the best handling cars
> of all time.
> > You can get a decent used 944 for around 4-5000. (non turbo)
> >
> >
> > -  Hard to get in and out of, nominal heat, Poor visibility, Timing belts
> (2)
> > a Major job, Parts rather expensive, but available used pretty cheap.
> > Can be frustrating to work on but you get used to it.
> >
> > Corrado-
> >  + Fast, fun, hold their value quite well. Good in the snow, good heat.
> > More of an everyday car. a wreck is almost worth as much as a whole car.
> > can hold 4 people comfortably
> >
> > - Expensive, G-lader problems (at no less than $1000 to fix,)
> > More of an everyday car. what else?
> >
> > it is like comparing apples to oranges.
> > it is often said in the Porsche world that a used 944 turbo (951)
> > is the fastest car you can buy under $10,000
> > are there any questions?
> >
> >
> > T
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Ting <alex@millenniumsolutions.net>
> > To: rts@nol.net <rts@nol.net>
> > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: porsche..was 0-60 shouldabeen bilstiens
> >
> >
> > :
> > :all-wheel drive and 400hp out the box!
> > :
> > :don't get me wrong,
> > :I love and respect the Corrado, but I'm
> > :just dreamin' here.......
> > :
> > :Alex Ting
> > :Millennium Solutions Group, Inc.
> > :8303 Sierra College Blvd., Suite 150
> > :Granite Bay, CA 95746
> > :
> > :Phone: 888-801-2001 or 916-797-9998
> > :Fax: 916-797-9997
> > :Email: alex@millenniumsolutions.net
> > :
> > :
> > :
> > :----------
> > :> From: Ryan Schuermann <rts@nol.net>
> > :> To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > :> Subject: porsche..was 0-60 shouldabeen bilstiens
> > :> Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 7:14 AM
> > :>
> > :> who needs a Porsche when you can buy a Corrado, spend just as much,
> > :> and fit 4 people....
> > :>
> > :> Ryan

> > :>
> > :> >
> > :> > That's rad!
> > :> > Find me some blown Bilsteins under warranty, please.
> > :> >
> > :> > BTW, I always thought God drove a 911 twin-turbo.
> > :> >
> > :> >
> > :> > Alex Ting (working up to Porsche, but happy with the vw)
> > :> >
> > :> > Millennium Solutions Group, Inc.
> > :> > 8303 Sierra College Blvd., Suite 150
> > :> > Granite Bay, CA 95746
> > :> >
> > :> > Phone: 888-801-2001 or 916-797-9998
> > :> > Fax: 916-797-9997
> > :> > Email: alex@millenniumsolutions.net
> > :> >
> > :> >
> > :> >
> > :> > ----------
> > :> > > From: Brian Honnold <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> > :> > > To: 'Alex Ting' <alex@millenniumsolutions.net>
> > :> > > Subject: RE: 0 to 50 and 60 mph.
> > :> > > Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 9:47 AM
> > :> > >
> > :> > > Ah, the old modern family thing.
> > :> > >
> > :> > > Got my Bilsteins from the Potterman yesterday.  turns out it cost me
> > :$50
> > :> > > for the Bilsteins and the Eibach springs at the junkyard and then
> > :another
> > :> >
> > :> > > $60 bucks to get them warranteed.  I thought they were just going to
> > :fix
> > :> > > the old ones but lo an behold what was in the box,  Four brand new
> > :bright
> > :> >
> > :> > > yellow Bilsteins with all the hardware.
> > :> > >
> > :> > > There is a god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > :> > >
> > :> > > And he drives a Roc
> > :> > >
> > :> > > Brian Honnold
> > :> > > '78 Rocco Ragtop
> > :> > >
> > :> > > On Friday, September 18, 1998 9:30 AM, Alex Ting
> > :> > > [SMTP:alex@millenniumsolutions.net] wrote:
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > > four kids total:
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > > Arnold-31
> > :> > > > me-24 (almost 25)
> > :> > > > Adam-16
> > :> > > > Samantha-5
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > > keep in mind Sammie is my half-sister by my dad.
> > :> > > > (parents are divorced and both remarried)
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > > Alex Ting
> > :> > > > Millennium Solutions Group, Inc.
> > :> > > > 8303 Sierra College Blvd., Suite 150
> > :> > > > Granite Bay, CA 95746
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > > Phone: 888-801-2001 or 916-797-9998
> > :> > > > Fax: 916-797-9997
> > :> > > > Email: alex@millenniumsolutions.net
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > >
> > :> > > > ----------
> > :> > > > > From: Brian Honnold <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> > :> > > > > To: 'Alex Ting' <alex@millenniumsolutions.net>
> > :> > > > > Subject: RE: 0 to 50 and 60 mph.
> > :> > > > > Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 9:08 AM
> > :> > > > >
> > :> > > > > Damn !!!!!!
> > :> > > > >
> > :> > > > > How big is the family,
> > :> > > > >
> > :> > > > > I have one sister that is 9 years younger and that's it.
> > :> > > > >
> > :> > > > > Brian Honnold
> > :> > > > > '78 Rocco Ragtop
> > :> > > > >
> > :> > > > > On Friday, September 18, 1998 8:58 AM, Alex Ting
> > :> > > > [SMTP:alex@millenniumsolutions.net] wrote:
> > :> > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > chew on this:
> > :> > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > my older brother is 31!
> > :> > > > > >
> > :> > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > Alex Ting
> > :> > > > > > Millennium Solutions Group, Inc.
> > :> > > > > > 8303 Sierra College Blvd., Suite 150
> > :> > > > > > Granite Bay, CA 95746
> > :> > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > Phone: 888-801-2001 or 916-797-9998
> > :> > > > > > Fax: 916-797-9997
> > :> > > > > > Email: alex@millenniumsolutions.net
> > :> > > > > >
> > :> > > > > >
> > :> > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > ----------
> > :> > > > > > > From: Brian Honnold <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> > :> > > > > > > To: 'Alex Ting' <alex@millenniumsolutions.net>
> > :> > > > > > > Subject: RE: 0 to 50 and 60 mph.
> > :> > > > > > > Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 8:46 AM
> > :> > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > Alright I give.
> > :> > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > 5 years old,  Man that's a big spread between kids.
> > :> > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > Brian Honnold
> > :> > > > > > > '78 Rocco Ragtop
> > :> > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > On Friday, September 18, 1998 8:09 AM, Alex Ting
> > :> > > > > > [SMTP:alex@millenniumsolutions.net] wrote:
> > :> > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > well, I suppose if the guy likes dating
> > :> > > > > > > > 5 year olds.......
> > :> > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > but if it's for my 2.0 16v, hhmmmm
> > :> > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > Alex Ting
> > :> > > > > > > > Millennium Solutions Group, Inc.
> > :> > > > > > > > 8303 Sierra College Blvd., Suite 150
> > :> > > > > > > > Granite Bay, CA 95746
> > :> > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > Phone: 888-801-2001 or 916-797-9998
> > :> > > > > > > > Fax: 916-797-9997
> > :> > > > > > > > Email: alex@millenniumsolutions.net
> > :> > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > ----------
> > :> > > > > > > > > From: Brian Honnold <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> > :> > > > > > > > > To: 'Alex Ting' <alex@millenniumsolutions.net>
> > :> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: 0 to 50 and 60 mph.
> > :> > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 5:09 PM
> > :> > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > It was a joke.
> > :> > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > I was thinking of you trading a date with your sister so
> > :that
> > :> >
> > :> > > the
> > :> > > > guy
> > :> > > > > > > > will let you make payments on the Motor.
> > :> > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > Brian Honnold
> > :> > > > > > > > > '78 Rocco Ragtop
> > :> > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > On Thursday, September 17, 1998 4:55 PM, Alex Ting
> > :> > > > > > > > [SMTP:alex@millenniumsolutions.net] wrote:
> > :> > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > what does my sister have to do with any of this?
> > :> > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > Alex Ting
> > :> > > > > > > > > > Millennium Solutions Group, Inc.
> > :> > > > > > > > > > 8303 Sierra College Blvd., Suite 150
> > :> > > > > > > > > > Granite Bay, CA 95746
> > :> > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > Phone: 888-801-2001 or 916-797-9998
> > :> > > > > > > > > > Fax: 916-797-9997
> > :> > > > > > > > > > Email: alex@millenniumsolutions.net
> > :> > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > ----------
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > From: Brian Honnold <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > To: 'Alex Ting' <alex@millenniumsolutions.net>
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: 0 to 50 and 60 mph.
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 3:39 PM
> > :> > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the guy will let you make
> > :> > payments???????????????????
> > :> > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > Do you have a sister, _
> > :> > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > Brian Honnold
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > '78 Rocco Ragtop
> > :> > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, September 17, 1998 3:35 PM, Alex Ting
> > :> > > > > > > > > > [SMTP:alex@millenniumsolutions.net] wrote:
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > what?
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think I heard you correctly,
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > you say you want to loan me $1,200??? :-)
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > trust me, I am perfectly willing to step up with
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > someone else's money......
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Ting
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > Millennium Solutions Group, Inc.
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > 8303 Sierra College Blvd., Suite 150
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > Granite Bay, CA 95746
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > Phone: 888-801-2001 or 916-797-9998
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > Fax: 916-797-9997
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > Email: alex@millenniumsolutions.net
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > ----------
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Brian Honnold <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: 0 to 50 and 60 mph.
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 3:09 PM
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, September 17, 1998 2:41 PM, Alex
> > :Ting
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > [SMTP:alex@millenniumsolutions.net] wrote:
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry!
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > just poking a little fun....
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > besides, since I've been having
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > problems of my own, my Nikes
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > do 0-60 faster than my car.....
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex Ting
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll testicle to that!!!!!!
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex, man step up to that 2.0 or
> > :> > > > something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian Honnold
> > :> > > > > > > > > > > > > '78 Rocco Ragtop.
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