What type refrigerant came on our cars? I too want my AC back

[peter at thescirocco.com (Peter)]

Listen to Chuck...

Being in Texas, it has to be the acid test for any air-conditioning system.

I charged my drivable swap-car, a '90 Passat 2L16V, with the $33 R134 kit,
that Wal-Mart sells.
It comes with everything you need, and the large can of R-134, is a
sealer/conditioner.

I drove it through the summer without any problems.

If the white Fox wagon gets back on the road, I'll re-charge that with
R-134, too.

Peter-302.832.8989
http://thescirocco.com/

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Blue [mailto:sukchew@cox.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:09 PM
To: gforbess@attglobal.net; smithma7@gmail.com; neptunonc@yahoo.com;
scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: What type refrigerant came on our cars? I too want my AC back

Okay People.Here's the scoop on refrigerant substitutes for R-12
Frigc-FR-2 contains 39% of 124  59% 134a and 2% butane FreeZone  RB-276  19%
142b 79%134a
R-406a   55% HCFC-22   41% HCF142b
Autofrost  GHG-X4/  51% HCFC-22  28.5%HCFC124  16.5% HCFC 124b
  These are not well known substitutes for R-12 Freeze -12 is 20% 142b and
80% 134a People think and use it as a drop in refrigerant but it is
not.Special fittings are required.If you have to go to that much trouble to
change to a refridgerant that contains 80% R-134 why not go ahead and
convert to all R134a.
  I am not a AC man but I do work with AC freon recovery equipment and ask a
lot of questions from AC people.I have had people tell me that R134a does
not cool as well as R12 but that has not been my experience. I flushed and
changed to R134 and I can not tell any diffrence. This was done on a 90
Nissan pick up and I have not had any problems with any of the components.I
am not advocating this procedure. It was done as a cheap fix and I have been
using it for about 4 years with no problems.
  It all may blow up tomorrow but so far so good.It is not a daily driver so
that may be a factor.
     There are some other subs but these seem to be the main ones.
Good luck,

ole blue
----- Original Message -----
From: <gforbess@attglobal.net>
To: <smithma7@gmail.com>; <neptunonc@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: What type refrigerant came on our cars? I too want my AC back


Freeze 12 is what was used to replace the R12 in our Mercedes after some
a/c work about 3-4 years ago.  I've had zero problems and the efficiency
seems to be even better than the original.  No seal replacement or purging
was required.   http://freeze-12.com/

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