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front cross member bar - ripoff?
hey i plan on building one of those in my welding class this coming week!
On 12/14/06, Rob Calderwood <robcalderwood1@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Anyone ever visit them? They are in Cary, NC.
>
> shisler wrote:
> > my friend really hasnt had a great experience with black forest. he
> > bought a
> > rear brace from them and it was the wrong one. once he found out and
> > tried
> > to get a different one they kept giving him the run around.
> >
> > "who are you"
> > "what did we send you"
> > "we have no record of this"
> >
> > many times over. email after email. needless to say they never
> > exchanged for
> > the right bar. lame
> >
> > On 12/12/06, Eric S <scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I would suggest the black forrest unit (not a terrible price really) or
> >> others that are available on vortex. I will not be making these again.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Eric
> >> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
> >>
> >> 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
> >> 1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
> >> 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
> >>
> >>
> >> raveracer77 said:
> >> > I want one. Would you want to go back to making them again, or
> >> should
> >> > I look into this Black Forest one?
> >> >
> >> > Rave Racer
> >> > Currently:
> >> > NEW!! 91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V
> >> > '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2
> >> >
> >> > '89 Jetta GTX 1.8L 16V
> >> > '87 Audi 4000 Quattro
> >> > http://www.audifans.com/registry/view.php?action=viewCar&carid=110
> >> > '72 Triumph GT6
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/50-50-111014_20raveracer-gt6-1.jpg
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://spaces.msn.com/raveracer77/photos/
> >> > http://www.myspace.com/rave_racer
> >> > ___________________________________________
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Eric S
> >> > To: David Winchell, II
> >> > Cc: 'Scirocco List'
> >> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 07:02 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: front cross member bar - ripoff?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yep, that was me...honestly, its not like I patented it or
> anything,
> >> and
> >> > I
> >> > quit making them some time ago.
> >> >
> >> > This bar does most closely resemble my design, looks like it
> >> would do
> >> > the
> >> > job!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Eric
> >> > www.vintagewatercooleds.com
> >> >
> >> > 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
> >> > 1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
> >> > 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > David Winchell, II said:
> >> > > It was Eric S. And it does look just like his with the
> >> exception of
> >> > the
> >> > > powder coating. IIRC, Eric was letting someone else from the
> >> vortex
> >> > make
> >> > > them after he stopped.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm sure Eric will post about it and give more details...
> >> > >
> >> > > Dave
> >> > >
> >> > > David Winchell, II
> >> > > 84 Scirocco BBS Turbo
> >> > > 79 Callaway Scirocco
> >> > > 04 .:R32 DBP
> >> > > 04 Mini Cooper S
> >> > > 00 Silverado
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: julie@menloparkrandd.com [mailto:julie@menloparkrandd.com]
> >> > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:46 AM
> >> > > To: Nate Lowe; Scirocco List
> >> > > Subject: Re: front cross member bar - ripoff?
> >> > >
> >> > > Scott Rose IIRC. This thing is identical. After all of his hard
> >> work
> >> > > too...
> >> > >
> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
> >> > >>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
> >> > >>Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:28 PM
> >> > >>To: 'Scirocco List'
> >> > >>Subject: front cross member bar - ripoff?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I remember the front cross member bar that was made either by a
> >> lister
> >> > or
> >> > >>someone on vortex (or both?) that was used to give support to
> stop
> >> > > cracking.
> >> > >>Well, I came across this today:
> >> > >>http://store.blackforestindustries.com/mkicrrebar.html which
> >> looks a
> >> > hell
> >> > > of
> >> > >>a lot like the bar that was being sold before. I don't remember
> >> who
> >> > >> exactly
> >> > >>designed that bar, but if they didn't authorize its design then
> >> I'm
> >> > sure
> >> > >>they'd like to know about this. Hopefully this is all me just
> >> being
> >> > out
> >> > >> of
> >> > >>the loop about what happened with that bar's design, but I
> figured
> >> > better
> >> > >>safe than sorry.
> >> > >>Nate
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