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front cross member bar - ripoff?
Anyone ever visit them? They are in Cary, NC.
shisler wrote:
> my friend really hasnt had a great experience with black forest. he
> bought a
> rear brace from them and it was the wrong one. once he found out and
> tried
> to get a different one they kept giving him the run around.
>
> "who are you"
> "what did we send you"
> "we have no record of this"
>
> many times over. email after email. needless to say they never
> exchanged for
> the right bar. lame
>
> On 12/12/06, Eric S <scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I would suggest the black forrest unit (not a terrible price really) or
>> others that are available on vortex. I will not be making these again.
>>
>> --
>> Eric
>> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
>>
>> 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
>> 1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
>> 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
>>
>>
>> raveracer77 said:
>> > I want one. Would you want to go back to making them again, or
>> should
>> > I look into this Black Forest one?
>> >
>> > Rave Racer
>> > Currently:
>> > NEW!! 91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V
>> > '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2
>> >
>> > '89 Jetta GTX 1.8L 16V
>> > '87 Audi 4000 Quattro
>> > http://www.audifans.com/registry/view.php?action=viewCar&carid=110
>> > '72 Triumph GT6
>> >
>> http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/50-50-111014_20raveracer-gt6-1.jpg
>>
>> >
>> > http://spaces.msn.com/raveracer77/photos/
>> > http://www.myspace.com/rave_racer
>> > ___________________________________________
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Eric S
>> > To: David Winchell, II
>> > Cc: 'Scirocco List'
>> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 07:02 AM
>> > Subject: RE: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yep, that was me...honestly, its not like I patented it or anything,
>> and
>> > I
>> > quit making them some time ago.
>> >
>> > This bar does most closely resemble my design, looks like it
>> would do
>> > the
>> > job!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Eric
>> > www.vintagewatercooleds.com
>> >
>> > 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
>> > 1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
>> > 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
>> >
>> >
>> > David Winchell, II said:
>> > > It was Eric S. And it does look just like his with the
>> exception of
>> > the
>> > > powder coating. IIRC, Eric was letting someone else from the
>> vortex
>> > make
>> > > them after he stopped.
>> > >
>> > > I'm sure Eric will post about it and give more details...
>> > >
>> > > Dave
>> > >
>> > > David Winchell, II
>> > > 84 Scirocco BBS Turbo
>> > > 79 Callaway Scirocco
>> > > 04 .:R32 DBP
>> > > 04 Mini Cooper S
>> > > 00 Silverado
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: julie@menloparkrandd.com [mailto:julie@menloparkrandd.com]
>> > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:46 AM
>> > > To: Nate Lowe; Scirocco List
>> > > Subject: Re: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>> > >
>> > > Scott Rose IIRC. This thing is identical. After all of his hard
>> work
>> > > too...
>> > >
>> > >>-----Original Message-----
>> > >>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
>> > >>Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:28 PM
>> > >>To: 'Scirocco List'
>> > >>Subject: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>> > >>
>> > >>I remember the front cross member bar that was made either by a
>> lister
>> > or
>> > >>someone on vortex (or both?) that was used to give support to stop
>> > > cracking.
>> > >>Well, I came across this today:
>> > >>http://store.blackforestindustries.com/mkicrrebar.html which
>> looks a
>> > hell
>> > > of
>> > >>a lot like the bar that was being sold before. I don't remember
>> who
>> > >> exactly
>> > >>designed that bar, but if they didn't authorize its design then
>> I'm
>> > sure
>> > >>they'd like to know about this. Hopefully this is all me just
>> being
>> > out
>> > >> of
>> > >>the loop about what happened with that bar's design, but I figured
>> > better
>> > >>safe than sorry.
>> > >>Nate
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