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front cross member bar - ripoff?
I put a chipped 1.8T into my rocco and built a brace similar to that one for
the front crossmember. All my other motor mounts are still stock. I put in a
poly front mount and poly inserts in the side with a heavy Duty rear mount.
Nothing has been cracking or braking.
I hope this helps.
Kevin
>From: "raveracer77" <raveracer77@yahoo.ca>
>To: "Don Walter" <dswalterwi@gmail.com>
>CC: Scirocco List <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:09:26 -0700
>
>
> Am I right in assuming that this is the weak point everyone talks
>about when you get an A1 chassis up over 200hp? I'm about to get started
>on my Rocco Racer project and I need to do some research into how the motor
>mounts hold up under that kind of stress. I've got my PL motor and 2Y
>tranny sitting on the ground in front of the car, I need to pull the wiring
>harness out of the GTI but I haven't figured out how I'm going to plug the
>Digi 2 into this motor yet. Also I haven't even started ripping this 8V
>motor out of the car. Anyone need an FN tranny in really good shape? I'll
>ask again once I get it out. The thing I need to know is do I need to do
>some creative welding to strengthen the other motor mounts or will this
>Black Forest beam solve most of those problems?
>
> Rave Racer
>Currently:
>NEW!! 91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V
>'81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2
>
>'89 Jetta GTX 1.8L 16V
>'87 Audi 4000 Quattro
> http://www.audifans.com/registry/view.php?action=viewCar&carid=110
>'72 Triumph GT6
>
>http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/50-50-111014_20raveracer-gt6-1.jpg
>
>http://spaces.msn.com/raveracer77/photos/
>http://www.myspace.com/rave_racer
>___________________________________________
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Walter
> To: raveracer77
> Cc: Eric S ; Scirocco List
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 07:34 PM
> Subject: Re: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>
>
> My son and I are working on a design for his. It will use the same
>principle but be a bit different.
>
>
> On 12/11/06, raveracer77 <raveracer77@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I want one. Would you want to go back to making them again, or
>should I look into this Black Forest one?
>
> Rave Racer
> Currently:
> NEW!! 91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V
> '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2
>
> '89 Jetta GTX 1.8L 16V
> '87 Audi 4000 Quattro
> http://www.audifans.com/registry/view.php?action=viewCar&carid=110
> '72 Triumph GT6
>
>http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/50-50-111014_20raveracer-gt6-1.jpg
>
> http://spaces.msn.com/raveracer77/photos/
> http://www.myspace.com/rave_racer
> ___________________________________________
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric S
> To: David Winchell, II
> Cc: 'Scirocco List'
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 07:02 AM
> Subject: RE: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>
>
>
> Yep, that was me...honestly, its not like I patented it or anything,
>and I
> quit making them some time ago.
>
> This bar does most closely resemble my design, looks like it would do
>the
> job!
>
> --
> Eric
> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
>
> 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
> 1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
> 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
>
>
> David Winchell, II said:
> > It was Eric S. And it does look just like his with the exception of
>the
> > powder coating. IIRC, Eric was letting someone else from the vortex
>make
> > them after he stopped.
> >
> > I'm sure Eric will post about it and give more details...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David Winchell, II
> > 84 Scirocco BBS Turbo
> > 79 Callaway Scirocco
> > 04 .:R32 DBP
> > 04 Mini Cooper S
> > 00 Silverado
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: julie@menloparkrandd.com [mailto:julie@menloparkrandd.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:46 AM
> > To: Nate Lowe; Scirocco List
> > Subject: Re: front cross member bar - ripoff?
> >
> > Scott Rose IIRC. This thing is identical. After all of his hard work
> > too...
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com ]
> >>Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:28 PM
> >>To: 'Scirocco List'
> >>Subject: front cross member bar - ripoff?
> >>
> >>I remember the front cross member bar that was made either by a
>lister or
> >>someone on vortex (or both?) that was used to give support to stop
> > cracking.
> >>Well, I came across this today:
> >>http://store.blackforestindustries.com/mkicrrebar.html which looks a
>hell
> > of
> >>a lot like the bar that was being sold before. I don't remember who
> >> exactly
> >>designed that bar, but if they didn't authorize its design then I'm
>sure
> >>they'd like to know about this. Hopefully this is all me just being
>out
> >> of
> >>the loop about what happened with that bar's design, but I figured
>better
> >>safe than sorry.
> >>Nate
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> --
> Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
> 1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
> 1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
> 1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
>http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
> 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
> 1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
> 1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
> 1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
> 1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
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