Phaeton about to become a rare commodity state-side....

[danws69 at earthlink.net (Dan)]

I've heard that W8 was one BADASS engine, and quite rare too. And I'd
question if he actually had the W12, they're even rarer over here, that
would make me question the high loss on the resale. Could be wrong, but that
just doesn't sound right....

Dan Snow -TPA, FL
'87 16v Scirocco
'87 16v    -occo (? car-trailer)
'82 DIESEL Scirocco (*NEW and IMPROVED daily driver)
'81 Rabbit Sportruck
'87 16v Scirocco (back-up shell)


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-----Original Message-----
From: Tonee Northam [mailto:pb3vr6@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 09:27
To: Matt Gregory; danws69@earthlink.net
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Subject: Re: Phaeton about to become a rare commodity state-side....


My friends dad sold his blk/blk w12  three months after he bought it, he
lost 30k on the deal. But his sons' not that much brighter, he bought 2 w8
passats.

Matt Gregory <vdub.grego@gmail.com> wrote: 
Yeah, I've seen one of those once. At the dealer. Actually, I guess I've
seen it a whole buncha times ... at the dealer.

matt.

On 11/15/05, Dan wrote:
>
> (just in case any of you cared, and don't miss my rant at the bottom....)
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/11/14/D8DSH59G0.html
>
> [ARTICLE]
> Volkswagen AG said Monday it will stop selling its luxury Phaeton sedan in
> the U.S. market next year.
>
> Volkswagen spokesman Tony Fouladpour said U.S. customers will be able to
> order the Phaeton through February, and production will end in May. The
> Phaeton will still be sold in Europe.
>
> Fouladpour said the company wants to concentrate on its best-selling
> vehicles, the Jetta and the Passat, which make up three-quarters of its
> U.S.
> sales. Volkswagen launched the new Jetta at the beginning of this year,
> and
> its new Passat went on sale in August. Its GTI hatchback goes on sale next
> month.
>
> The Phaeton has been a poor seller since its introduction to the U.S.
> market
> in 2003. In the first 10 months of this year, Phaeton sales were down
> nearly
> 52 percent, according to Autodata Corp.
>
> The Phaeton starts at $68,655, comparable to a Jaguar XJ or Mercedes
> S-Class. The A8 sedan from Audi _ which is owned by Volkswagen _ also is a
> direct competitor. Fouladpour said Volkswagen knew it would be a challenge
> to lure buyers in such a competitive segment.
>
> Fouladpour said high gas prices also hurt the Phaeton, which gets 12 to 16
> miles per gallon in city driving.
>
> By contrast, Phaeton sales are up 23 percent in Europe so far this year,
> Fouladpour said. The European version of the sedan has a diesel engine
> that
> gets better fuel mileage, but that engine doesn't meet U.S. emissions
> standards, Fouladpour said.
>
> Volkswagen, hurt by a weak dollar and fierce competition, has amassed
> losses
> of more than $1 billion in North America this year. The company's U.S.
> sales
> were down 11 percent in the first 10 months of compared to a 2 percent
> uptick in the market overall, according to Autodata.
>
> The company named a new North American chief in October and plans to
> introduce up to 10 new models in the next five years to boost sagging U.S.
> sales.
> [/ARTICLE]
>
>
>
>
> 
> Hmmmm.....maybe if they hadn't MADE THE DAMNED THING LOOK LIKE THEIR
> LAMETASTICLY-FUGLY PASSAT, THEY COULD HAVE NOTCHED OUT A SMALL
> MARKET-SHARE
> FOR THEMSELVES.
>
> I swear, I friggin' *HATE* VWAG. If it wasn't for this Scirocco, I'd never
> have anything else to do with those twits.
> 
>
>
>
>
> Dan Snow -TPA, FL
> '87 16v Scirocco
> '87 16v -occo (? car-trailer)
> '82 DIESEL Scirocco (*NEW and IMPROVED daily driver)
> '81 Rabbit Sportruck
> '87 16v Scirocco (back-up shell)
>
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