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Fuel economy and improving it, among other things.



I just made a 225 mile test run today with my 2.0 l turbo in a MKI with a FO 
trans. 3.89 final and 0.71 5th .Half of the run was with the A C on. thanks 
to Dan's mega squirt tuning I got 33.4 mpg.most of the drive was around 
65 -70 mph with a few short bursts to ????. I still don't have any low Kpa 
numbers (50 and above).I don't have any apparent Vacuum leaks. The engine 
runs real strong so I don't think I have a basic engine problem.Any ideas?
ole blue
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Utley" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
To: "matt" <matt@safearmy.com>; "Roger concha" <rogercv1@gmail.com>; "Mike 
Smith" <smithma7@gmail.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other things.


> Which is why I posted what I did.  Mine is stock, but I can feel the
> difference, as well as see the mileage difference...
>
> I am researching the RON statement ATM...
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: matt [mailto:matt@safearmy.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:49 PM
> To: Roger concha; matt; Mike Smith; fahrvegnugen@cox.net;
> scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other things.
>
> That's why I said in my original post 93 was overkill for a stock 8v. I
> can't comment on 16v's since all my cars are 8v's
> Matt
> 1981 Mars Red
> 1984 Wolfsburg
> 1987 8v Auto
> Louisville, KY
>
> -------Original Message-------
>> From: "Roger concha" <rogercv1@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other things.
>> Sent: 01 Jul 2005 20:44:00
>>
>>  but to us 16v folk the 91 or higher octane really does make a difference
>>
>>  On 7/1/05, matt <matt@safearmy.com> wrote:
>>  > I looked at my fuel door and it says 91 ron. Pretty sure thats euro. 
>> So
> I still say it's meant for 87 octane gas. Hell a jh is 8.5:1 cr. I think 
> 93
> is overkill for the engine and wallet.
>>  > Matt
>>  > 1981 Mars Red
>>  > 1984 Wolfsburg
>>  > 1987 8v Auto
>>  >
>>  > -------Original Message-------
>>  > > From: "Mike Smith" <smithma7@gmail.com>
>>  > > Subject: Re: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other things.
>>  > > Sent: 01 Jul 2005 20:01:15
>>  > >
>>  > >  it says 91 on my gas door, and I think that's US.  Been using the 
>> 93
>>  > >  since I moved to MD and was averaging 31+ when working in Tyson's
>>  > >  Corner, VA.  100 miles round trip/day.  I thought that was pretty
> damn
>>  > >  good considering I was sitting in traffic most of the time.  Keep 
>> in
>>  > >  mind though that my odometer ain't working and I know the mileage 
>> of
>>  > >  the trip from doing it in the old Pontiac before I got rid of it.
>>  > >
>>  > >  On 7/1/05, matt <matt@safearmy.com> wrote:
>>  > >  >
>>  > >  > actually i don't know if that's true. The VW owners manual says 
>> 91
> ron which i think  is the euro octane rating system and 87 clc which is 
> what
> we use in north america. so i think 87 is what it's designed for. I'm no
> expert so i could be wrong
>>  > >  > Matt
>>  > >  > 1981 Mars Red
>>  > >  > 1984 Wolfsburg
>>  > >  > 1987 8v Auto
>>  > >  > -------Original Message-------
>>  > >  > > From: "David Utley" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
>>  > >  > > Subject: Re: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other
> things.
>>  > >  > > Sent: 01 Jul 2005 19:36:55
>>  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  Regular grade in that era WAS 91....  :-)
>>  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  BTW, I consistently run 93, and enjoy the difference...
>>  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  David
>>  > >  > >  >
>>  > >  > >  > From: "matt" <matt@safearmy.com>
>>  > >  > >  > Date: 2005/07/01 Fri PM 02:52:49 EDT
>>  > >  > >  > To: "scirocco-l@scirocco.org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>  > >  > >  > Subject: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other
> things.
>>  > >  > >  >
>>  > >  > >  > I just use regular. It's 87 or 89 I can't remember. The car
> runs just fine. In fact I consider it a waste of money to run a higher 
> grade
> of fuel in a stock 8v. The engine was designed to run prefectly well on
> regular grade.
>>  > >  > >  > Matt
>>  > >  > >  > 1981 Mars Red
>>  > >  > >  > 1984 Wolfsburg
>>  > >  > >  > 1987 8v Auto
>>  > >  > >  > Louisville, KY
>>  > >  > >  >
>>  > >  > >  > -------Original Message-------
>>  > >  > >  > > From: "Neptuno" <neptunonc@yahoo.com>
>>  > >  > >  > > Subject: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among other
> things.
>>  > >  > >  > > Sent: 01 Jul 2005 18:35:10
>>  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  93
>>  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  _ROGER CONCHA _ wrote:
>>  > >  > >  > >  what gas are you using tony?
>>  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  On 7/1/05, Neptuno wrote:
>>  > >  > >  > >  > Is that city or Hwy matt? My 82 auto is a pig on
> gas.....I can reack 26 only with HWY driving....
>>  > >  > >  > >  >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > matt wrote:
>>  > >  > >  > >  > Don't feel bad. I can only manage about 26 mpg in my 8v
> automatic.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > Matt
>>  > >  > >  > >  > 1981 Mars Red
>>  > >  > >  > >  > 1984 Wolfsburg
>>  > >  > >  > >  > 1987 8v Auto
>>  > >  > >  > >  > Louisville, KY
>>  > >  > >  > >  > -------Original Message-------
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > From: "Dan Bubb"
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > Subject: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among
> other things.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > Sent: 01 Jul 2005 17:21:59
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > Well, with a 4 speed your mileage isn't suprising.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > My 84 always got about 28 mpg no matter how I drove 
>> it
> with the close ratio
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > 5 speed.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > Dan
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > ----- Original Message -----
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > From: "GGehrke"
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > Subject: Re: Fuel economy and improving it, among
> other things.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > > I don't remember the exact year of your car, but
> know it's a MK I.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > > So, I assume 1.6L, regular mechanical/vacuum 
>> advance
> distributor, CIS w/O2
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > > sensor, and wide ratio 5 speed tranny (FF, FN, FO
> type stuff).
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > 1.8 8V (swapped in by PO) which is, I guess,
> CIS-lambda (has O2
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > sensor) with original 4spd tranny. I have a 5spd in 
>> my
> other car that
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > I might swap this fall.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > And Roger: Me, own a MkII? absolutely not. :-p
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > > Last, get some lowering springs so the nose of your
> car isn't up in the
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > > air
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > > causing all the air to go under the car and cause a
> lot of extra drag ;^)
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > yea yea, i know.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > And I just realized Cathy must not be checking email
> yet this morning
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > or she surely would have told me to take off my
> duckbill to decrease
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > drag. heh.
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > > -Grant-
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
>>  > >  > >  > >  > >
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>>  > >  > >  '83 GTI, Daily Driver...
>>  > >  > >  '87 16V, parts car
>>  > >  > >  '82 pickup, 2.0 16V, collecting dust...
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>>  > >  '86 red 16v (Red 5)
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