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shim kit on a turbo 16v

yea. I mostly have the know how to take it to 350 hp I'm mostly looking for
others opinions and experiences.  sorry I didn't say guys or ladies.  I can
build a motor that can do it I just wanted to do it on a stock bottom end.
its not going to be a stock head my all means I'm going to do it up.  tranny
wish I know what I have to do to support it and got it to take the shock if
launching off the line.
If I wanted to do 350 hp daily driving I would just get a shim kit, p&p
head, 3 angle valve job, autotech valve springs and retainers, t3/t4E turbo,
3in exhaust and custom intake, 55lb injectors, and poly mounts all around so
there is no power loss.  but thins setup i mentioned is daily driving
meaning 1-2 shift normal 3rd gear boost goes up to 15 psi.  i say 3rd gear
because 3rd gear its MUCH less if a shock on the tranny internals.
----- Original Message -----
From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@hotmail.com>
To: <derrickmd18@verizon.net>; <rhock99@epix.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: shim kit on a turbo 16v


> Well, you didn't ask the girls, but I have seen the innards of more than
> enough "stock trannies" on VWs with much less power than yours. (OMG
that's
> a ton of power to stick! ) Just remember that NHRA (and any 1/4 mile)
events
> will shift the grief somewhere, when your tires and the track stick well
to
> each other. I haven't run fast enough for this to be an issue, not yet.
And
> Denny just toasts clutches in my 16V. Maybe you'll luck out and snap axles
> like the Hondas. I'll talk trannies with the 260 hp MkI next time I see
him,
> see what he's done.
>
> Cathy
> NCRA "Power Class" points winner 2003
> CSCS "FF Class" points winner 2003
>
>
>
> >From: "Derrick flo" <derrickmd18@verizon.net>
> >To: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: Re: shim kit on a turbo 16v
> >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:57:42 -0800
> >
> >well I guys may think its crazy but I'm shooting for 350 crank HP on the
> >stock bottom end.  I'm currently running a 4K tranny and its gets up
there
> >quick.  I have a Saab turbo installed and it was set at base at 4 psi and
> >at
> >WOT 10 psi through a tec 2.  was running that until my clutch said no no.
> >and started to slip.  now I'm at 4 psi until I install my 6 puck.  but I
> >figured why go in twice when I can go in once.  I'm thinking about a 02A
> >conversion or taking my 9A spare tranny and beefing it up.  my 9A tranny
> >has
> >a busted second gear so I have to go in to repair it anyway so I was
> >thinking about doing things while I'm in there.
> >
> >I'm upgrading my turbo to a t3/t4E in two months.  the car is mostly
going
> >to be a daily driver and I plan on racing it at NHRA events.  so I'm
> >somewhat erre about the 02A because they are somewhat hardier to come by
> >then the 020.  I can get 020 tranny at junkyards all day long.
> >
> >What do you guys think about this?
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ryan H" <rhock99@epix.net>
> >To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:15 AM
> >Subject: Re: shim kit on a turbo 16v
> >
> >
> > > I think it all depends on your power levels.  What kinda turbo setup
we
> >talking here?  Full street ~200 hp?  Invest in a bolt kit for the
> >differential, and do basic tranny maintenance (fluid) and you'll be fine.
> >(Of course, you'll still want a shim kit or the Phantom Grip, I can't
give
> >advice there)
> > > Bigger power ~250+ hp?  May require a better diff (Quaiffe) and some
> >tranny work (gear strengthening, particularly 3rd and 4th), along with
> >stronger driveshafts if you want it to last.  Take note, some guys seem
to
> >make do with stock drivetrain and lots of power, but it mayjust be luck.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
> > > > Date: 2004/01/10 Sat AM 04:02:48 EST
> > > > To: "Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > > Subject: RE: shim kit on a turbo 16v
> > > >
> > > > I believe the kit you are referring to is the peloquin shim kit and
it
> >is
> > > > (last time I heard) was $80 or so from someone here on the list
> >(peter??).
> > > > BUT, if you are wanting to beef up the tranny I would start with a
16v
> >trans
> > > > (I like the gearing in the AGB) then decide what type of  diff you
> >want
> >to
> > > > go with.  Opinions on this list will differ but I think for the
money
> >the
> > > > phantom ain't bad but you also have to consider what you are going
to
> >be
> > > > doing.  For drag racing with slicks, I'd definitely shuck out the
> >extra
> > > > dough for the quaife as I bet the slicks will eat the phantom up
> >pretty
> > > > quickly but if your just gonna zip around the streets and beat up on
> >some
> > > > Honduhs and want to save a $500 then maybe the phantom will work for
> >you.
> > > > There are other diffs out there but most are generic and may need
some
> >work
> > > > to fit unlike the quaife but the quaife also comes with an unlimited
> > > > warranty that even covers racing so you could swap the thing from
> >trans
> >to
> > > > trans as you change vehicles.  I have never broken down and bought
one
> > > > myself but I have driven and ridden in other's cars that have them
and
> >they
> > > > are nice!!  The shim kit you are talking about is about the cheapest
> >and
> > > > easiest upgrade but it's effectiveness is questionable although
better
> >than
> > > > stock.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure others will have more input on this subject as well.  HTH!!
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Derrick flo
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:59 PM
> > > > To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > Subject: shim kit on a turbo 16v
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a scirocco 16v turbo and I want to beef up the tranny a
little.
> >I
> > > > was looking at the shim kit for 100 and I was wondering if it will
> >beef
> >up
> > > > the tranny?
> > > > Also I was looking a the phantom grip differential and wanted to
know
> >how it
> > > > was?  I'm going to be rebuilding a 9A tranny and I wanted to know
what
> >to
> > > > put in while I'm in there.
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