Camshaft ID help ( now vintage performance)

[scirocco at vintagewatercooleds.com (Eric S)]

The 1.7 is one of the least regarded of the 8v engines ever
produced...complete lack of peppyness and rather unresponsive to mods. 
The 1.5s and 1.6s seemed so rev happy, and very enjoyable to drive. 
You'll find ALOT more choices available to you in perfomance bottom ends
and things as well in the 1.6 crowd, cause of the ITC racers (and you
won't find hardcore ITC racers with 1.7s, even though they could use them,
they "downgrade" to the 1.6).

Probably best explained by the motors strokes: both were 79.5 bore, but
the 1.6 was a 80 stroke and the 1.7 an 86.4.  Longer stroke = less piston
velocity and a more torquey, less rev happy motor.

-- 
Eric
www.vintagewatercooleds.com

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Kyscirocco@aol.com said:
> Thanks. Please explain though. From some of the things I've read it seems
> like the 1.7 would be better.
> Matt
> 1981 Mars Red
> Louisville, KY
> In a message dated 8/16/04 10:42:50 PM, scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com
> writes:
>
>
>> ike your ideas...cool part to come by!
>>
>> However, dump the 1.7 boat anchor...you'll be much happier building a
>> 1.6...trust me.
>>
>> --
>> Eric
>> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
>>
>> "I was run off of the scirocco list..." -Dave Ewing
>> "Isn't it enough that you were part of my decision to leave the scirocco
>> list, do you have to haunt me here as well?" -Dave Ewing
>>
>> Kyscirocco@aol.com said:
>> > OK. after Talking with some knowledgeable folks, doing a bit of
>> research
>> > and
>> > a few measurements.   It appears I have a drake custom grind with 105
>> lobe
>> > center and .455 lift. It looks as though this came has never been run.
>> So
>> > I would
>> > say this was nice score!   It has got me thinking about doing sort of
>> a
>> > vintage performance build up in my 81. Instead of doing one of the
>> more
>> > modern
>> > swaps 16v, aba, 3a I'm thinking of doing a built 1.7L. Big valve 1.6
>> head.
>> > Maybe
>> > even heron head. Build it the way they used to. I know this will cost
>> more
>> > and
>> > not give as much performance.   But I enjoy being different (hell I
>> have
>> > an
>> > mk1 Scirocco) and finding cool old performance parts. Anyone that has
>> any
>> > info
>> > on old performance tips. Like old catalogs or articles from the 80's
>> that
>> > you
>> > would be willing to photocopy. Please contact me. Thanks
>> > Matt
>> > 1981 Mars Red
>> > Louisville, KY
>> > In a message dated 8/14/04 9:10:08 PM, sailingfc@dslextreme.com
>> writes:
>> >
>> >
>> >> I looked through my Drake catalogs and can't find any reference to
>> those
>> >> numbers.  Drake's part number system was XX-YY-ZZZ. For cams parts,
>> XX
>> >> was
>> >> 20.  The YY was 01(new) or 02(reground).  And the ZZZ stood for the
>> >> lift,
>> >> but Drake never made a 0.455" lift cam, that I can tell.
>> >>
>> >> -Dick-
>> >> 78 Scirocco
>> >> Original Owner
>> >> 95 Passat
>> >> Second Owner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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