MK3 tranny 020 are they stronger??

[jdbubb at ix.netcom.com (Dan Bubb)]

Yes some lower powered European VW's used a cable actuated clutch with the 02A/02J.
So you can round up "factory" parts and make the conversion a little easier.
Don't know if the factory every had a linkage shift for the 02A/J but I've seen pictures of people
that have converted them to linkage.
Actually, mounting the shifter box is pretty straightforward and the cable can be routed so the
shift knob is very close to the same position as the stock shift knob.
Don't know about shift quality of linkage 020 vs. cable 02J, but we're going to find out soon ;^)
Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: <SequoiaGLX@twcny.rr.com>
To: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: "Kirsten Jensen" <kirsten.jensen@earthlink.net>; "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>;
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: MK3 tranny 020 are they stronger??


Dan, I think that page is where I must have gathered some of the information but I remember reading
somewhere else where someone was able to get the parts to convert the 02 letter boxes to cable
clutch...

I guess by variant, yes, I meant that there were different ratios, etc...

BTW, that's a cool project!

John K. Gates
--
'97 Jetta GLX - daily driver
'85 Scirocco Flash Silver, waiting for my new house/shop for a complete
teardown/buildup sometime soon...

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: MK3 tranny 020 are they stronger??

> Calling the MK 3 020 a variant is perhaps overstating the case.
> An 020 is an 020 with the exception of the well documented
> differences between the regular and "16V"
> versions and, of course, the availability of all sorts of ratios.
>
> As far as the 02A/02J vs. 020 gearboxes, go here and take a look:
> http://funksoulkitty.org/engineandtranny/tranny/02j/comparison/comparison.html
> http://funksoulkitty.org/engineandtranny/tranny/02j/partscomparison/parts.html
>
> Also, if you look around you'll see info on our version of the
> tranny mounts required to mount an
> 02J in a Scirocco.
> We are using the cable shift and hydraulic clutch, although I
> don't think Kirsten has pics up yet of
> that.
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <SequoiaGLX@twcny.rr.com>
> To: "Kevin S" <optimus234@hotmail.com>
> Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: MK3 tranny 020 are they stronger??
>
>
> If you're talking about the VR6/TDI/1.8T 02A,02J and 02M boxes,
> yes, they're built a little stronger
> than the 020, but they definitely still have their problems.
> People found out starting with Corrado
> SLC's how crappy the second and third gear syncros are in 02A's.
>
> These boxes supposedly do not have the problem as much as 020's
> with the gear oil level getting low
> and 5th burning up (02M's are the 6 speed, dual pinion shaft
> boxes, a really unique design).
>
> I know that some people have complained about stripping the teeth
> right off of third gear, but these
> guys are running slicks on forced induction VR6's that are making
> serious power for the strip.  For
> any other application, the 02A/J/M boxes should be plenty strong.
>
> They're a few pounds heavier but I think they're shorter.
>
> I'm sure you have to fab up mounts.  They're hydraulic clutch and
> cable shift in the US but kits are
> available from Europe for some sort of VW variant that used the
> 02A/J/M with a cable clutch.  It
> takes a little work but it's possible.
>
> A3 cars with the 2.0l N/A four cylinder (engine code ABA, etc)
> still used a variant of the familiar
> 020 gearbox.
>
> John K. Gates
> --
> '97 Jetta GLX - daily driver
> '85 Scirocco Flash Silver, waiting for my new house/shop for a
> completeteardown/buildup sometime soon...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin S <optimus234@hotmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:58 pm
> Subject: MK3 tranny 020 are they stronger??
>
> > I keep seeing people that have a 1.8T swap or a turbo car using
> > the MK3
> > trannies. Is this because they are stronger or just easier to
> come by?
> >
> > Kevin
> >
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