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1.8T pistons in a 16v motor

Subject: 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
From: derrickmd18 at verizon.net (Derrick Floyd)
Date: Wed Sep 24 17:33:12 2003
References: <20030923224216.71231.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com><003701c38226$d01570a0$d804fea9@derrickctvnxi8><002d01c3828f$ef72acb0$a809b9d0@4WAVEINC>

yea its in my plan to do.  I going to install the tec 2 on the current motor
then dyno tune it.  then lower compression and turbo it with only 5 psi.
then build the race motor.  I  only have 3 1.8T pistons and rods so I'm just
going to get some turbo pistons with stock bore from vortex when someone
sells them.  forged pistons on 16v rods will support about 350-400hp so its
STRAIGHT.  I think I can get some forged pistons for $350 on there.  How was
the tec 2 to get started?  I'm planning on going up to NGP to have them dyno
tune it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Derrick Floyd" <derrickmd18@verizon.net>; "Dan Smith"
<sad_rocc@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor


> Hey Derrick, this is that asshole Dan! The other Dan!
> I'd like to make one suggestion.
> Install and tune the TEC II on your current engine, then go over to the
new
> engine.
> The reason I suggest this is when you first fire up an engine with the TEC
> II the mixture can be way off. and it'd be a pain to screw up the rings
and
> pistons during breakin in the new engine if you inadvertantly inject too
> much fuel and wash down the cylinder walls.
> Better to get the TEC II in the ballpark with the old engine since messing
> it up wouldn't matter as much.
> Maybe that was already you're plan, but thought I'd mention it based on a
> couple of short attempts at firing up Scott Williams' 16V on TEC II. It
was
> running eye-watering rich for quite some time before we could get it in
the
> ballpark.
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Derrick Floyd" <derrickmd18@verizon.net>
> To: "Dan Smith" <sad_rocc@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
>
>
> > yea.  I looked at the pistons in a 1.8T at work today with the head off
> and
> > I looked at a spare 16v bottom end and the pistons top are totally
> resigned
> > differently.  the 16v has valve relief on top of the pistons and the
1.8T
> > ones don't.  the 1.8T pistons are dished a little on the top.  From my
> > estimated look at both pistons I don't think I can use them unless I get
> > valve relief's put in the pistons.  I could be wrong.  I took apart the
> 1.8T
> > motor today and found out why it was stuck in a corner at work.  it has
a
> > hole in the side of the block from #2 rod.  all the other rods and
pistons
> > are ok except for #2.  so I'm thinking about finding some Audi 20v
pistons
> > or looking for some used forged 16v pistons.
> > I have mostly all the parts to go boost right now if I want to rush
things
> > (oil pan tapped, oil lines, tec 2, turbo, manifold, intercooler, etc.
so
> I
> > have mostly everything.  Plus I have a headgasket set with 2 ABA
> headgaskets
> > to lower compression.  my thing is I have maintance work to do first
> before
> > I install Stand alone engine management.  I have to re do my front
> > suspension, control arm bushings, tranny, and other work.  when I'm done
I
> > 'm going to install the tec 2 and drive it for a month on the motor I'm
> > building then install the turbo equipment.  the only reason why I'm not
> > turboing my stock motor is because I have 160K on it.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Smith" <sad_rocc@yahoo.com>
> > To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Derrick, if you're still even reading this, don't feel bad, I do the
> exact
> > same thing. I think I've changed my mind 10+ times on what I will do for
> an
> > engine swap for my mk1 and I have yet to actually commit to anything.
> (Sorry
> > Anson, I'll buy the knock sensor stuff from you someday and Brian, I
> > apologize but I still plan on getting the battery relocation kit,
someday)
> > Sometimes, what I want to do and what I think would be sweet gets ahead
of
> > what I can do and what is really honest reality. But it doesn't hurt to
> ask
> > questions such as the one you did, at least in my mind, because you
learn
> > something new and that opens (or closes) another option in the huge
world
> of
> > modding. And besides, if the silly high hp stock VW motor is the way you
> > really want to go, over time you'll learn what you need to to make it
> > happen.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > The reason why we are here is to help others (and get some help once
in
> a
> > > while) through the experiences of our own not to tell someone what
they
> > lack
> > > personally. I think this message would of been perfect if it weren't
for
> > > the slam on Derrick's level of VW knowledge. We all started somewhere
> and
> > I
> > > find myself learning faster when I get in over my head a little!
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Derrick Floyd"
> > > > To: "scirocco mailing list"
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:46 PM
> > > > Subject: 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > bore stroke disp rod wrist pin
> > > > 16v 81.0 86.4 1781 48 144 20 33.4 -5 220 10:1
> > > > 20v 81.0 86.4 1781 48 144 22 32.8 0.0 220 9.15:1
> > > > think they will fit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wanted to build a motor with stock vw parts that I can boost to
> 350hp.
> > > > Because the way I look at it a 16v bottom end has forged crank, some
> BIG
> > > boy
> > > > rods and cast pistons. so If I can use 1.8T forged pistons I'll have
a
> > > > somewhat STRONG bottomend. so if it works the bottomend is done and
I
> > can
> > > > send the head out to get P&P and some valve springs and some turbo
> cams
> > > and
> > > > hit Killa up for a t3/t4 with the biggest wheel I can get in it and
> I'll
> > > > have a motor that is capable of running 11 sec all day long with
stock
> > vw
> > > > parts. My biggest problem is if they will fit. I mean anything 9:5.1
> and
> > > > under will be suitable for me. I have a TEC 2 right now about to go
> into
> > a
> > > > stock 16v motor.
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Follow-Ups:
- 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
  - From: MK1Scirocco16v at comcast.net (Dave Ewing)
- 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
  - From: jdbubb at ix.netcom.com (Dan Bubb)

References:
- 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
  - From: sad_rocc at yahoo.com (Dan Smith)
- 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
  - From: derrickmd18 at verizon.net (Derrick Floyd)
- 1.8T pistons in a 16v motor
  - From: jdbubb at ix.netcom.com (Dan Bubb)

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