LONG and pretty far-fetched: fabbing and modifying roccosforQuattro (Haldex or torsen)

[adrian.culda at sympatico.ca (Adrian)]

If I could I would... but since I cant find a transmission I cant do
anyhting. I have a Audi 5KTQ rear setup ( the complete works ) but whats
the point of getting the chasy guy to "graft" it to the rear since I
cant find a AWD trans in canada anyway??? More weight for what???
BTW most likely will be ending up using the Audi 5KTQ front brakes on my
rocco. Now if I remember who makes the adaptor for those.
 
GL with your setup
BTW... the car is getting its 12Pt Chromoly cage as we speak. The chasy
is gone for 2 weeks and its getting everything reinforced including a
new front crossmember which will hope fully be able to cope with the new
engines power.

Adrian C.
Project Scirocco R2.oT - "The Turbocharged 16Valves of Fire Breathing
Furry"
( 2.0L 16V T66 )
 

-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Doruk Seren
Sent: October 8, 2003 12:41 PM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: LONG and pretty far-fetched: fabbing and modifying roccos
forQuattro (Haldex or torsen)

SO...
I know the list is more often a discussion of
reasonable, realistic stuff, the most extravagant
being turbo conversions and ONCE, a twin-engine... But
hey, you guys have more technical expertise than most
other non-professional mechanics i've ever met, so i
figured i'd ask:
Of course this all sounds crazy, and I won't even get
to start till summertime...
But the garage-owner I used to work for, me, and a
couple friends are trying to get a rally thing going.
I got to do some rallycross this summer in my
mostly-stock 85 8v, TONS of fun. 
But i am thinking a really nuts all-out Open class car
would be far more entertaining.
Anyone here have any thoughts or suggestions at all
about any of the following?
-Mid-engined RWD roc (using probably audi 4k rear
suspension and the whole engine/trans unit from some
other FWD VW, like, say, a VR6 and its corresponding
cable-shift trans)
-AWD rocco using, say:
-vanagon syncro trans/driveline + some newer engine
(yeah, i know this equates to a fat lump of cast iron
sticking out the ass end, but with power going to the
front also, it might (?) be manageable... Maybe using
a haldex diff for the front? With what little I know
of them it's PROBABLY possible without too much actual
modification to the diff proper...
OR
Maybe use a whole, traditional Quattro driveline, ala
the dahlback Golf RSI? I figure prepping a rally car
will take a lot of shell prep like seam-welding and
stiffening anyway, so it might not be too
unreasonable... Suppose, for example, you use a newer
setup, like a V6 from an A4 or 90 model, and like i
said, pull a 'dahlback' and mount the radiator and all
the other crap in the back end (almost as if you were
building a mid-engined car backwards). This would
almost certainly require a scratchbuilt front
crossmember and grill support etc, but the radiator
being in back might prove to be very helpful in this
case...

And again, before anyone calls me crazy (again), I
should mention the team in the northeast that runs
(what used to be) a VW Fox wagon with full Quattro
driveline and a biturbo V6 from an S4... I know this
one doesn't require the change from longitudinal to
transverse, making it WAY easier... Maybe a two-door
fox sedan  would be easier for this?
The main goal with doing something like this instead
of just resorting to a DSM or old 4k Quattro like more
people do, is to have A. A relatively light car for
once and B. a short wheelbase without using the audi
sport method of hacking 2 feet of body off behind the
b-pillars... but maybe that would be less crazy than
this stuff?

Like i said folks, we're brainstorming. Let's hear
what you all think...


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