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CV Joints vs Axle assembly

Subject: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
From: MK1Scirocco16v at comcast.net (Dave Ewing)
Date: Fri Nov 21 02:52:50 2003
In-reply-to: <Law11-F106Q1JS0CcUD0000ff1c@hotmail.com>
Bingo, Cathy, it depends on what they start with and since most axles turned
in are of the "shelled" variety I stay away from the remans.  I have done
both.  I started with the remans and for the most part haven't had much
trouble with them (other than the cheapness of the boots and such) but at
the shops I've worked at it seems we were always trading those things in for
new ones because they failed fairly regularly.  Most of the failures were on
regularly driven cars but we would always give the customers (before
installing remans, after the remans they were just replaced with other
remans) the choice of reman or rebuild and we see very few rebuilds come
back (new joints, same axle).  Since the inners rarely blow up the outers
are the only part that usually needs to be replaced.  Just my opinion and
experience.  I'd rather save the time of replacing them every so often if I
don't have to whether they are free or not.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of C Boyko
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:08 AM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: CV Joints vs Axle assembly


I put a new remanufactered axle on the 16V several years ago, it's been drag
raced on slicks from May to Oct for two seasons, twice a month at least, and
no issues. FWIW, in a straight line application with a bit more than stock
power, I haven't seen axles go on VWs. (Hondas change them like underwear
and VW trannies are another story, I've seen many killed off (not ours), and
we've toasted a few clutches.) There would be about 20 000 kms on the axle
other than the straight line miles. But vigourous curvy stuff would be the
telling tale (ie Anson!) . Adam (my son) uses remans on his "scraping the
ground low" Jetta, and he kills them off regularily, the angle is too
extreme. I think he'd toast brand new stuff too, so for his money, the
lifetime guarantee is a good thing. I'd do the whole axle again, but maybe I
got a good one, it may depend on the quality of the core they rebuilt for
you. If you rebuild your own, this would be a known quantity.
Cathy


>From: "Dave Ewing" <MK1Scirocco16v@comcast.net>
>To: "Scirocco-L@Scirocco.Org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: RE: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
>Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:48:28 -0800
>
>Guaranteed forever is nice but I hate breaking down in the first place and
>having to go through all the stuff to get the axle replaced.  My opinion,
>if
>anyone cares, is to use cv joints.  You money is better spent and it will
>probably last about as long as you own your vehicle.  And if your racing
>you
>need better than stock anyway!  The shafts don't usually go bad unless you
>mess them up replacing the CV joint.  Also, since the outter joint is the
>common one to go bad you don't even have to take the axle out to replace
>it!
>Easy as pie and lasts longer than the "rebuilt by the blind" shafts.
>
>Hope you don't plan on these axles for your twin, Al!
>
>Just my $.02!
>
>Dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Allyn
>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:53 PM
>To: Anson Clement; Ron Pieper; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
>
>
>they are even guaranteed for when you bring in some 34 year old spare from
>dauns barn and say its the one that was under warranty.... under ansons
>receipt of course...
>:)
>that one still has no play, btw :P
>Al
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Anson Clement" <ansonivan@yahoo.com>
>To: "Ron Pieper" <rapieper@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:23 PM
>Subject: Re: CV Joints vs Axle assembly
>
>
> > I'm running rebuilt axles from advance auto, I've had one fail in a year
>and a half.... I think I'm probably the most abusive driver here so... yea
>I
>think they are ok. The big bonus about them is they are guaranteed
>forever... if you don't mind changing them they are the way to go.
> >
> > Anson
> >
> > Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Yup, the assemblies are ready to bolt in. There are many stories of
>these
>remanufactured units
> > failing very early, or even being bad when bought. Others will chime in
>with what manufacturers
> > to watch for.
> >
> > One thing I do know is that there's nothing better than a brand-new
>Lobro
>joint...
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > --- Jon Palm wrote:
> > > Well I have that clunk clunk thing going on, and noticed the cv boot
>is
> > > about half gone. So I was pricing new cv's and there was complete axle
> > > assemblies for only 10 bucks more. Does the assembly typically have
>both
> > > inner and outer cv's with it? If so, I'd just as soon get a whole
>assembly
> > > than dick with pulling and packing cv's, especially for just 10 bucks
>more.
> > > Please comment....
> >
> >
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