Vibration = tranny?

[green536 at hotmail.com (Chris DeLong)]

Ok well, I am not all angry or anything. Maybe I sould have put some smilies 
in there :) I am just trying to offer up some experienced advice.

On a side note, maybe its my own vendetta against reman axles

Here's a little story:

A million years ago, when I was married to a psycho bitch, I worked on her 
car. It was an '82 Jetta. When I got the car for her it was in need of all 4 
joints (didnt even need to take them apart to find out). I thought to my 
self; "Self, it would be really cheap jsut to stick reman axles in there, 
she doesnt drive it hard, and worse case I have to change one every year. No 
problem, it take 5 mins max to change one out." So I went ahead and ordered 
the reman ones. I put them in the car. Left side makes noise. Shit, well I 
can wait a while. Took it to the tire shop to have tires put on. They ran 
the car on the lift for me. All kinds of scary noises. Ok back to the psycho 
bitch part, I was not having a good feeling about it breaking on her and 
listening to the onslaught of evils to come. So I warrantied that one and 
put it in. Cool, no noises. Boot tears 1 month later on the other axle. This 
story goes on for about 6 axles in 7 months. Finally, I made them warranty 
both axles (after they were making noise and had torn boots). Then I sold 
the car to this kid for a rediculously cheap amount who ended up stiffing me 
for the rest of the payment anyway. Havent heard from him about those. Or 
anything else after he stiffed me.

Not really much to do about the ex. But never the less, changing axles all 
the time was getting old and it was getting me dirty ( I dotn like getting 
dirty at work ;)

Next story, I have taken quite a few axles out of cars for a service. One 
thing that really sucks is if you are working on an '88 Jetta and you take 
the axle out to service it and have ordered all possible joint kits and boot 
kits to get the job done without waiting for any parts and you find out the 
axle is using joints from a '79 rabbit (the kind with external c-clips). 
Then the car either sits on the rack (now you are losing money on the job) 
or you hope you have the right axle that belongs in the car sitting in the 
used parts section of the shop. The other part that sucks is that now you 
have taken apart 2 axles just to do a routine maintenance job. You have 
spent twice the time alotted to do the job and also have to call the 
customer and explain to them why they needed a new axle shaft. Not fun.

Hopefully you guys can see where I come from. I mean I dont mean to shit in 
anyone potatoes. I am jsut trying to help and explain things from a larger 
point of view.

:) :) Now if anyone wants to come over and have a beer LMK :)



Chris DeLong
Fine Tuning
206.367.5503
www.finetuningperformance.com
Seattle, WA USA





>From: "John Lagnese" <jlagnese@massed.net>
>To: "Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: Re: Vibration = tranny?
>Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:36:01 -0400
>
>I have put in over 12 axles and have only had one crap out after 50K. I 
>just
>brought it back for a fresh one. I have felt that for the $100 difference
>I'll chance having to put in a free replacement.
>Strictly an opinion, which are like assholes. Everyone has one and they
>stink!
>John
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:27 PM
>Subject: Re: Vibration = tranny?
>
>
> > chris good point, small details
> >
> > new half shaft = 175$, reman 49.99$ at o'reilly's with lifetime 
>warranty,
>I have had 1 half shalf go bad in last 7 years (2 roccos) and I simply
>exchanged over the counter.
> >
> > I understand you would refer people to put new ones on,. I simply think
>the cost efficiency of a reman is well worth it considering the odds of
>getting a bad one is really and truly based on the corp that actually
>performs the work on it. (and there are SHODDY places) but I have always
>made sure the places I delt with where of good quality and have lifetime
>replacement cv's  (and you know oreilly does nto want to keep swapping cv
>joints all the time over their counter considering they special order them
>each time and they have to pay for gas and shit for next day delivery to
>their store.
> >
> > I understand you point of view and respect it... Ron taught me,.,, its 
>his
>fault I am a cheap ass. (grin)
> >
> >
> >
> > L F <rocco16v@netzero.net> wrote:
> > Gee, Chris, relax.
> > It's not that important.
> >
> > Larry
> > sandiego16v
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris DeLong
> > To: rocco16v@netzero.net ; amalventano@sc.rr.com ; mkii@nycap.rr.com ;
>scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: Vibration = tranny?
> >
> >
> > Ok two more things then.
> >
> > 1. IF you worked on as many VW's every day for as long as I have then I
> > would consider your statement to be slightly noteworthy
> > 2. I would VERY much like to know where you got the info that REMAN 
>(short
> > for REMANUFACTURED) axles come with NEW joints. I would also like you to
> > explain how it is then that REMAN axles with NEW joints have not been 
>heat
> > treated like NEW GERMAN joints.
> >
> >
> > Basically I have put lots of reman axles in a few cars. Mostly at the
> > customer request even though they were advised not to. I have also had 
>to
> > take them out and put replacement ones in frequently. I think it comes
>down
> > to the bottom line that people like the ease of swapping out and axle 
>with
> > known crap as opposed to taking the original axle out and taking the
>joints
> > off and cleaning/inspecting/replacing as neccessary. I have NEVER had a
> > German new joint bad out of the box. I have personally owned 6 bad reman
> > axles in the time span of 7 months on one car that was not drivne very
>hard
> > at all. If you actually sit down and do the calculations you will find
>that
> > a new joint is only about 60$ per joint (2 per axle) and they come with
>new
> > boots. Yes, those are NEW German parts. So for an extra bit of your time
>and
> > about 50$ you get something that will last an easy 60k miles of hard
> > driving. Show me that ratio with a reman axle. I dare ya.
> >
> >
> > To those taht have reman axles in your cars. No offense. Jsut trying to
> > offer up some factual information regarding these bastard parts.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris DeLong
> > Fine Tuning
> > 206.367.5503
> > www.finetuningperformance.com
> > Seattle, WA USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "L F"
> > >To: "Chris DeLong" ,
> > >,,
> > >Subject: Re: Vibration = tranny?
> > >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:22:58 -0700
> > >
> > >That's a pretty broad statement. Tens of thousands of people have used
> > >remans and are satisfied with them. You can always get some defective
> > >units, make no mistake, but if you consider that remanufactured axles
>have
> > >NEW CV JOINTS on them, they have to be an option.
> > >
> > >Larry
> > >sandiego16v
> > > , reman axles are BAAAAAADDD!!
> > >
> > > Chris DeLong
> > >
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