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just did some research, check this out:
http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm
turns out the heat capacity of water goes WAY down when adding 50/50 =
glycol, basically we need to run the minimum percentage of glycol as =
possible to prevent freezing and help inhibit scaling/corrosion in the =
aluminum parts of the engine. glycol also helps lubricate the water pump =
seal. after reading that page, im droping the mix to about 20%, and will =
throw some water wetter in there shortly.
...now to find some water wetter...
Al

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Robbie Cotner=20
  To: Allyn=20
  Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:54 PM
  Subject: Re: interesting coolant stuff


  I had almost this exact same thing happen to me, I haven't tried =
thinning out the mix yet though-=20

  Rob=20

   Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com> wrote:=20

    ok, so i fixed a hose on the rieger today, and decided to do some =
flush
    action. flushed system, and actually threw some antifreeze in there =
this
    time (i usually run just water). i went with about 60% antifreeze =
mix. now
    check this out:
    temps prior:
    water - centered over led, max of 3/4 when fan turns on.
    oil - normally 90-100 when moving, peaking at 110 during extended =
idle in
    traffic, but will settle back to 100 if a/c is turned on low (due to
    radiator fan running in slow).
    temps after:
    water - towards upper part of led.
    oil - minimum 100 when moving (more like 105), gets to 110 pretty =
fast,
    stays at 110 even with a/c on low.

    i realize antifreeze doesnt cool as well as water, but is it THAT =
much
    worse?
    also, could it be that all is good, but the antifreeze is raising =
the
    boiling point, so where the system was incapable of going much ove! =
r 100c
    before, now it can more easily?

    all other parts of cooling system are still working perfect, fan =
operates on
    its own. nothing was done to tstat, etc.

    whatcha think? should i thin out the mix? what is the absolute =
minimum i
    should run to ensure the proper protection that antifreeze is =
supposed to
    provide? (as far as lubrication, etc).
    Al


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just did some research, check this=20
out:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm";>http://www.redline=
oil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>turns out the heat capacity of water =
goes WAY down=20
when adding 50/50 glycol, basically we need to run the minimum =
percentage of=20
glycol as possible to prevent freezing and help inhibit =
scaling/corrosion in the=20
aluminum parts of the engine. glycol also helps lubricate the water pump =
seal.=20
after reading that page, im droping the mix to about 20%, and will throw =
some=20
water wetter in there shortly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>...now to find some water =
wetter...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Drobw_z@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:robw_z@yahoo.com";>Robbie =
Cotner</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 23, 2003 =
9:54=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: interesting =
coolant=20
  stuff</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P>I had almost this exact same thing happen to me, I haven't tried =
thinning=20
  out the mix yet though-=20
  <P>Rob=20
  <P>&nbsp;<B><I>Allyn &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com";>amalventano@sc.rr.com</A>&gt;</I></=
B>=20
  wrote:=20
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  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
solid">ok,=20
    so i fixed a hose on the rieger today, and decided to do some=20
    flush<BR>action. flushed system, and actually threw some antifreeze =
in there=20
    this<BR>time (i usually run just water). i went with about 60% =
antifreeze=20
    mix. now<BR>check this out:<BR>temps prior:<BR>water - centered over =
led,=20
    max of 3/4 when fan turns on.<BR>oil - normally 90-100 when moving, =
peaking=20
    at 110 during extended idle in<BR>traffic, but will settle back to =
100 if=20
    a/c is turned on low (due to<BR>radiator fan running in =
slow).<BR>temps=20
    after:<BR>water - towards upper part of led.<BR>oil - minimum 100 =
when=20
    moving (more like 105), gets to 110 pretty fast,<BR>stays at 110 =
even with=20
    a/c on low.<BR><BR>i realize antifreeze doesnt cool as well as =
water, but is=20
    it THAT much<BR>worse?<BR>also, could it be that all is good, but =
the=20
    antifreeze is raising the<BR>boiling point, so where the system was=20
    incapable of going much ove! r 100c<BR>before, now it can more=20
    easily?<BR><BR>all other parts of cooling system are still working =
perfect,=20
    fan operates on<BR>its own. nothing was done to tstat, =
etc.<BR><BR>whatcha=20
    think? should i thin out the mix? what is the absolute minimum =
i<BR>should=20
    run to ensure the proper protection that antifreeze is supposed=20
    to<BR>provide? (as far as lubrication,=20
    =
etc).<BR>Al<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR=
>Scirocco-l=20
    mailing=20
    =
list<BR>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/=
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