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16v 2.0l engine, N/A stats??



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Larry, are you assuming that performance (or any other single type of )
tuning is the main component of automotive decision-making? I must
wholeheartedly disagree with you there:

a) An electric water pump isn't likely to last as long as a mechanical one.

b) It will also cost quite a bit more. A stock pump for our cars might run
$35 or so. The one I just picked up set me back $280.

c) This will enable me to start the pumping on demand and regulate the flow
at a rate unrelated to engine rpm. Thus, my engine will warm up faster and
cool down quicker. I'll be able to run the pump no faster or slower than the
*ideal* amount. This will free up horsepower and that is a good thing!
Combine this effect with the (momentary) alternator cut circuit, and I'll
have almost no parasitic drag at all.

d) I might even be able to reverse the coolant flow so that it cools the
head first. That would pay dividends in knock supression. -another good
thing!

Bust that!
--
Scott F. Williams
NJ Scirocco nut
'99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
  -----Original Message-----
  From: L F [mailto:rocco16v@netzero.net]
  Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:58 PM
  To: vince@performancecarstereo.com; Scott F. Williams; Kevin S;
scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  Subject: Re: 16v 2.0l engine, N/A stats??


  If converting to a water pump driven by an electric motor would save power
in a street car, the engineers would have converted years ago.  They'd kill
their own grandmother to save one mpg across the fleet.
   It's an interesting idea that won't give satisfactory results.

  Larry

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<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Larry, 
are you assuming that performance (or any other single type of ) tuning is the 
main component of automotive decision-making? I must wholeheartedly disagree 
with you there:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>a) An 
electric water pump isn't likely to last as long as a mechanical 
one.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>b) It 
will also cost quite a bit more. A stock pump for our cars might run $35 or so. 
The one I just picked up set me back $280.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>c) 
This will enable me to start the pumping on demand and regulate the flow at a 
rate unrelated to engine rpm. Thus, my engine will warm up faster and cool down 
quicker. I'll be able to run the pump no faster or slower than the *ideal* 
amount. This will free up horsepower and that is a good thing! Combine this 
effect with the (momentary) alternator cut circuit, and I'll have&nbsp;almost no 
parasitic drag at all.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>d) I 
might even be able to reverse the coolant flow so that it cools the head first. 
That would pay dividends in knock supression. -another good 
thing!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Bust 
that!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=410100503-18022003></SPAN><SPAN 
class=410100503-18022003></SPAN><FONT size=2>--<BR>Scott F. Williams<BR>NJ 
Scirocco nut<BR>'99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS<BR>Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" 
vehicle<BR>Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"<BR>ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers 
wanted."</FONT> </DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> L F 
  [mailto:rocco16v@netzero.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 17, 2003 9:58 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> vince@performancecarstereo.com; Scott F. Williams; Kevin S; 
  scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 16v 2.0l engine, N/A 
  stats??<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If converting to a water pump driven by an 
  electric motor would save power in a street car, the engineers would have 
  converted years ago.&nbsp; They'd kill their own grandmother to save one mpg 
  across the fleet.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;It's an interesting idea that 
  won't&nbsp;give satisfactory results.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Larry</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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