cups v. coilovers?

[jdbubb@ix.netcom.com (Dan Bubb)]

The 16V cylinder head is heavier than an 8V head (guess I'll have to
measure tonight) and ALL of the additional weight is on the front of the
head. The intake manifold is heavier and its weight is all forward of
the head instead of all behind the head. Alternator weight is moved
forward compared to the 8V.
The point is the 16V IS heavier and all the additional weight is all
further forward. That's why a 16V front spring will be stiffer than an
8V for a comparable application.
VW made the OE 16V springs stiffer. They didn't need to cause in the
quantities they were having made there is zip difference in cost. They
did it to maintain the handling and ride balance they thought was
optimum.
The fact that you've swapped springs out of the intended application
means only that they will fit. It doesn't mean they will provide the
optimum ride and handling balance.
Dan

Rabbit16v wrote:
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> Very little weight difference between the two.  Companies who market th=
e
> parts know that 16vers will pay more money for parts so they charge mor=
e for
> them.  Sometimes you have to listen to you common sense telling you tha=
t
> "somethings going on here!!".  I've used 8v springs on 16vs and vice ve=
rsa
> with no problems.  Probably no way to disprove their theory unless you =
have
> a rat somewhere or get someone to rate the two different springs.   I'm=
 sure
> they have different part numbers.
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> Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com>
> To: "Shawn c Meze" <skerocdriver@juno.com>
> Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: cups v. coilovers?
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> because of weight/etc
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> if you want more info, ask Potter, since he was the one that told me.
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> Josh Able
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> AIM:jshouseofeuro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shawn c Meze" <skerocdriver@juno.com>
> To: <mkii@nycap.rr.com>
> Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: cups v. coilovers?
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:35:54 -0500 "Josh20V" <mkii@nycap.rr.com> write=
s:
> > > well, the H&R Cup kit isn't recommended for a mkII Scirocco with 16=
v.
> > > Its
> > > better suited for the mkI (maybe mkII also?) 8v.
> >
> >
> > And why is that?
> >
> >
> > Shawn M=E9ze
> > 86' Jetta GLi 8V   88' Corvette -AS- #30  2002 SDR Solo2 Champion
> > Scirocco" 84' Scirocco 8V 82' Scirocco RIP 80' Scirocco S 79' "Projec=
t
> > FSP
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f
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> >
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