Crossmember Braces

[mardak at cogeco.ca (Mark)]

Eric, first off, I like the design you've chosen - it definately addresses
the problem of helping redistribute the up/down forces that engine torque
places on the crossmember.  If I had an extra $125 lying around right now,
I'd probably order one.  BUT, when you design/sell a product, it's always a
good idea to make the product appeal to as many people as possible.  You
could shut up the nay-sayers by adding a simple welded in triagle on each
end.  Even if you don't "need" the side load rigidity, a couple of extra
welds and two small triangles of steel would probably make your bar a bit
more marketable...  I sense quite a bit of frustration on your part - and
understandably so, but this bar is a remedy for a problem that doesn't show
up on too many of our cars.  BUT, with more and more people upping their
horsepower in their Sciroccos recently, I bet you'll be getting some more
interest soon.  Why not make a small run of 10 or so bars to keep on hand.
Enough of us know about your bar that listers/vortexers will refer people
with questions of stress cracks to you in the future...  It probably won't
make you a bunch of cash, but some extra money here and there is always
nice!

Mark
80 S
81 S

> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Eric S
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:31 AM
> To: Euroroc II; Dan Smith; scirocco81@vwmail.net;
> scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: Crossmember Braces
>
>
> Raffi, read the damn thread I linked.  One bolt on each side is
> enough!  Mk2s are goddamn silly, and no way to get to both bumper
> bolts without some whacked out silly design to get over that
> pinch weld where VW added like 4 inches of bumper tube.
>
> Tobias has had NO movement in his cracks since install, and his
> bar was the second one made, of course it had fitment issues, its
> called a Prototype.
>
> I am so fucking sick of defending the design, fuck this shit.
> Knock peoples hard work somewhere else! I did this for us
> scirocco guys, why?  Cause NO ONE ELSE HAS ACUTALLY PRODUCED ONE
> FOR SALE.  You wanna critize the design, then make AND PRODUCE
> another one.
>
> --
> Eric
> www.VintageWatercooleds.com
>
> 79 VW Iltis
> 81 Scirocco S (*TDI* swap and complete restoration in holding pattern)
> 81 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel (FOR SALE!)
> 81 Rabbit Truck 2.0 16v Motronic
> 83 Scirocco Wolfsburg
> 91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical rebuild in progress)
>
>
> --- Euroroc II <flaatr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >If this is the same one as Tobias has then it did not fit his
> mkII and is
> >currently held in with only one of the two bumper bolts on each side.
> >
> >-Raffi
> >
> >
> >At 01:09 PM 8/26/2003 -0700, Dan Smith wrote:
> >>It fits a mk2, you just must be very confused. It was tested on
> a mk2, the
> >>photos Eric has up are of a mk2 and most the people who have bought one
> >>have a mk2.
> >>
> >>Dan
> >>
> >>Euroroc II <flaatr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>Seems like a good part from what I saw but it doesn't fit a MKII... from
> >>what I remember.
> >>
> >>-Raffi
> >>
> >>
> >>At 10:02 AM 8/26/2003 -0700, Eric S wrote:
> >> >Ok folks,
> >> >
> >> >Listers where the reason I made this bar, and the demand from
> you folks
> >> >has been low. I am really kinda dissapointed that I put so
> much time and
> >> >effort into this for everyone, and what, 2 listers have purchased
> >> >one? Well, I am stopping production soon. You want one, now or never.
> >> >
> >> >Details:
> >> >
> >> >http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=940111
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Eric
> >> >www.VintageWatercooleds.com
> >> >
> >> >79 VW Iltis
> >> >81 Scirocco S (*TDI* swap and complete restoration in holding pattern)
> >> >81 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel (FOR SALE!)
> >> >81 Rabbit Truck 2.0 16v Motronic
> >> >83 Scirocco Wolfsburg
> >> >91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical rebuild in
> progress)
> >> >
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