Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion?

[jason@scirocco.org (Jason)]

At 08:19 PM 4/29/2003, Tyler P. wrote:
>Oops it seems that the goodyear f1 isn't actually the model its the f1
>gs-d3.  It seems from searching on vortex that eric from tirerack claims
>these are better than the protenza s-03.  I think I may have to try these
>out and let you all know how they are...
>
>heres a link
>http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1
>+GS-D3&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=245ZR7F1GSD3&fromCompare1=yes


Just keep in mind that the rating on that Tire Rack comparison is not what 
I'd call "significant" at this point.  The people who have rated the S-03 
have put over 3.8 million miles on those tires -- the F1 GS-D3 ranks much 
higher in the "I would buy again" category, but very similarly in all other 
categories.  The difference is that people have only put 208,332 miles on 
them.  That's just not large enough of a sample to compare to the S-03 IMO.

If you remember the 1st generation Potenza RE-730, you'll recognize another 
problem.  At first, the tires were very highly rated, but as they aged, 
they became unbearably loud - which eventually caused Bridgestone to 
redesign them as the RE-730 Gen II... and ultimately cancel them 
altogether.  Their marks were higher than the venerable RE-71 at first... 
but certainly not later on.  So until some more people put serious mileage 
on the F1's, I'd approach them with a little more caution.

Jason



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tyler P. [mailto:ty@festf.org]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 3:37 PM
>To: List (E-mail)
>Subject: RE: Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion?
>
>
>Well, I have the 712's on my rocco and really like them.  These tires will
>actually be for my bmw and will be 17's.  I haven't seen the dunlop sp8000
>in the size that I'm looking for (235/45/17) and the sp9000 and sp8080e have
>lower ratings on tirerack so I really haven't looked at them.  Also, some of
>the reviews of the Goodyear f1's were compared to the dunlop sp8000 and they
>said they were far better than dunlop.
>
>This will be a daily driver, mostly freeway, in the rainy pacific norwest
>(seattle area).  Frankly, from everything I look at the Goodyears are
>looking really promising but I don't know if they are really worth 200 extra
>when I know the 712's and es100's are already great performing tires and are
>about $90-100 for my size.
>
>Wet traction is very important to me.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Erik Seo [mailto:erik@yoshimedia.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 3:16 PM
>To: Joe Doty; Tyler P.; List (E-mail)
>Subject: RE: Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion?
>
>
>If you are looking for auto-x tires, Falken Azenis have just about the
>most grip of anything out there (not r-compound).  I don't like the
>turn-in compared to the Ecsta 712's, but the overall grip is way better.
>
>Of course if it's just for driving around town you could probably find
>something that does better in the rain and that doesn't wear so fast.
>
>should find 2005/550/15's for about $70 a tire @ discounttiredirect.com
>or at vulcantire.com
>
> > How about Dunlop SP8000s?  They are about $75/tire in a 195/50/15.
>Several of my friends have/do use them, and some people on the list do
>too.
> >
> > Joe Doty
> > IT/Development
> > joe@lcnetwork.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tyler P. [mailto:ty@festf.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:50 PM
> > To: List (E-mail)
> > Subject: Goodyear F1, Protenza S-03 - anybody have an opinion?
> >
> > I need to replace some tires.  Currently have a car running Kuhmo
>ecsta 712s and thought I would try Yoko ES100 to compare but two models
>listed in the subject line aren't much more and have superior ratings
>on tirerack.  Anybody have an opion on wether they are worth the extra
>cash ($50-$60 more per tire) or any experiance with them.   I'm not
>sure what to get now.  If it were merly cosmetic I would go for the
>Yoko's but they are all cool looking and I just want to get the best
>performer.
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