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4K or Not 4K

Julie,

  Yes, you *could* use a 0.71 for the 5th gear in the 4k, but I
would highly recommend against it.  My personal preference of course.
The 4k uses a stock 0.89 5th...  Just dropping down to a 0.80
will still allow you to have good acceleration on the highway without
the high RPM's that the stock 4k 0.89 would have produced at a given speed.
Dropping all the way down to a 0.71 (FF 5th) is quite extreme.  It would
be a *huge* drop from 4th to 5th!  You may like it, but I know that I
wouldn't... here's why...
I built a "4k" for my mk2 16v...I chose a 0.75 5th.  Big drop from 4th
to 5th, definitely not a natural gear change.  It is nice on the highway
above 70 mph, but any slower and I have little torque available for 
acceleration.  It's a terrible feeling to be cruising at 60 mph coming up
to a hill and feel the need to go into 4th.
It is really a personal preference I suppose...

Oh, and the question about beating Ben in a race... highly unlikely.  ;)~
(but doing the 4k tranny swap would sure help)

Ben



--- Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> If I pull the .71 from the FF, I just need a 2l bottom. My butt is ONLY 1.8 
> 16v  :)
> The car is going off road very soon, to be stripped for painting.
> If I moved to a 2l could I beat Ben Harder in a race? How much would a 2L 
> bottom end cost in good condition? Which engine should I look for?
> 
> 
> >From: Allyn <amalventano1@comcast.net>
> >To: Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com>, vwtype53@yahoo.com, 
> >scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
> >Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:44:40 -0400
> >
> >yup, .71 5th. 2 liter would pull it just fine.
> >Al
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>
> >To: <vwtype53@yahoo.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
> >
> >
> > > Can I swa0p the 5th from the FF I have in the garage?
> > > WOW! Forget the little old lady from Pasadena!
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Benjamin Harder <vwtype53@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com>, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > >Subject: Re: 4K or Not 4K
> > > >Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:49:12 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Why is it every one wants a 4K transaxle?
> > > > > I may have found one for < $50.00
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  One word: ACCELERATION
> > > >
> > > >Julie, the 4k is the best geared stock VW tranny for acceleration...
> > > >combine a 3.94 final drive with a close-ratio gear set and you have
> > > >one mean pulling rocco!  $50 is a great deal!
> > > >The only suggestion I have for the 4k gearbox is to change the stock
> > > >5th gear to a 0.80 instead.  The stock 5th gear is great for the open
> > > >race track, but terrible on the highway.
> > > >
> > > >You're 16v mk1 will be noticeably faster with this tranny!  ;)~
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >=====
> > > >Benjamin Harder
> > > >86 Scirocco 16v
> > > >80 Scirocco 16v
> > > >93 Passat GLX
> > > >
> > > >http://www.geocities.com/vwtype53/
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> Julie Macfarlane
> Menlo Park Research & Development
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> Amsterdam NY
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