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Dan,
There is definitely a longevity difference between the two. The =
guys at TT were the ones that started me looking for the diesel manifold =
over the gas after I told them I was having trouble sourcing one without =
cracks.
Rick.
---- Original Message -----=20
From: Dan Bubb=20
To: Rick Kellner ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: 4-2 Manifold and opinions
It's not so much the fact that it doesn't have the O2 port as the fact =
it's a diesel manifold.
Diesel exhaust is much cooler than gas exhaust. Much less abuse to the =
manifold.
Dan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rick Kellner=20
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: 4-2 Manifold and opinions
-Peter wrote:
Btw, you are better off with the non-O2 exhaust manifold, since =
there is
> a much smaller chance of it cracking.
Peter, you are sure right about that. I looked at quiet a few =
manifolds with the O2 port. Most showed signs of cracking. I finally =
found a 4-2 manifold from a 1981diesel rabbit. After it was sandblasted =
it looks like new.=20
Rick.
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From: <thescirocco@juno.com>
To: <rfkellner@snet.net>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: 4-2 Manifold and opinions
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> On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:20:13 -0500 "Rick Kellner" =
<rfkellner@snet.net>
> writes:
> > Since the topic of 4-2 manifolds is out there I thought I would =
add=20
> > a
> > question to the mix.
> > I have a 4 to 2 exhaust without an O2 hole that I will be =
putting on=20
> > my 84, 8v. I will also be putting on an after market (TT or =
Autotech)
> down=20
> > pipe. One of the technicians suggested that I put the O2 sensor =
in the=20
> > cat. He said that there is a plug at the downpipe side of the =
cat
> that will=20
> > accept the O2 sensor. Is this location too far away (too cool) =
for the
>=20
> > stock, non-heated sensor? Does anyone have any experience with =
this=20
> > and/or an opinion?
>=20
> The TT downpipes have the O2 fitting on the pass. side of the =
downpipe.
> The regular O2 works fine in this spot
>=20
> If you put it by the cat, you'll need the heated O2...
>=20
> Btw, you are better off with the non-O2 exhaust manifold, since =
there is
> a much smaller chance of it cracking.
>=20
> Peter
> thescirocco.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dan,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> There is definitely =
a longevity=20
difference between the two. The guys at TT were the ones that =
started=20
me looking for the diesel manifold over the gas after I told them I =
was=20
having trouble sourcing one without cracks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djdbubb@ix.netcom.com =
href=3D"mailto:jdbubb@ix.netcom.com";>Dan Bubb</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drfkellner@snet.net=20
href=3D"mailto:rfkellner@snet.net";>Rick Kellner</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 09, 2002 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 4-2 Manifold and=20
opinions</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's not so much the fact that it =
doesn't have=20
the O2 port as the fact it's a diesel manifold.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Diesel exhaust is much cooler than =
gas exhaust.=20
Much less abuse to the manifold.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dan</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Drfkellner@snet.net =
href=3D"mailto:rfkellner@snet.net";>Rick=20
Kellner</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 08, 2002 =
9:36=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 4-2 Manifold and =
opinions</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-Peter wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Btw, you are better off with =
the non-O2=20
exhaust manifold, since there is<BR>> a much smaller chance of it =
cracking.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peter, you are sure right about =
that. I=20
looked at quiet a few manifolds with the O2 port. Most showed =
signs of=20
cracking. I finally found a 4-2 manifold from a 1981diesel=20
rabbit. After it was sandblasted it looks like new. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>> ---- Original Message =
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:thescirocco@juno.com";><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>thescirocco@juno.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:rfkellner@snet.net";><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>rfkellner@snet.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cc: <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 =
3:37=20
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: Re: 4-2 Manifold and=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>> <BR>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:20:13 -0500 "Rick =
Kellner"=20
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:rfkellner@snet.net";><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>rfkellner@snet.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>><BR>>=20
writes:<BR>> > Since the topic of 4-2 manifolds is out there I =
thought=20
I would add <BR>> > a<BR>> > question to the =
mix.<BR>> > I=20
have a 4 to 2 exhaust without an O2 hole that I will be putting on =
<BR>>=20
> my 84, 8v. I will also be putting on an after market (TT =
or=20
Autotech)<BR>> down <BR>> > pipe. One of the technicians =
suggested=20
that I put the O2 sensor in the <BR>> > cat. He =
said that=20
there is a plug at the downpipe side of the cat<BR>> that will =
<BR>>=20
> accept the O2 sensor. Is this location too far away (too =
cool)=20
for the<BR>> <BR>> > stock, non-heated sensor? =
Does=20
anyone have any experience with this <BR>> > and/or an=20
opinion?<BR>> <BR>> The TT downpipes have the O2 fitting on =
the pass.=20
side of the downpipe.<BR>> The regular O2 works fine in this =
spot<BR>>=20
<BR>> If you put it by the cat, you'll need the heated =
O2...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Btw, you are better off with the non-O2 exhaust manifold, =
since=20
there is<BR>> a much smaller chance of it cracking.<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
Peter<BR>> thescirocco.com<BR>> <BR>>=20
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