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curious engine sound/problem



and shortly after the marbles... the seal goes and its wawa allova da place :)
Al

Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6)
86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)
87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original clutch, driveshafts, wheels :)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
To: "'Dave Novak'" <toastworks@hotmail.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: curious engine sound/problem


> It could be the water pump...
> 
> Does it sound like marbles getting thrown around in there?
> 
> I ran into the same thing with my '87 16V Scirocco donor, I thought it
> was the alternator, but instead it was the water pump.
> 
> HTH!
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Dave Novak
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 5:54 PM
> To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: curious engine sound/problem
> 
> 
> So, umm, err.. this 'friend' I have with a VW engine is hearing a
> concerning 
> sound from his CIS-E engine.
> 
> The car has been difficult to start up for the last week. When cold, the
> 
> engine dies after running for 3-4 seconds (regardless of how the gas
> pedal 
> is pressed). This happens about 3 or 4 times, and then the engine
> manages to 
> stay running.. roughly. If you try and persuade the engine to rev, it 
> backfires and generally runs like shit.
> 
> If you wait five minutes, it's at least driveable. I made it from CT to
> RI 
> to MA to NH and back to CT like this.
> 
> This morning, I hear a knocking sound from the engine. Thought it was
> the 
> alternator, but the bearings are tight. Sounds like it's from under the 
> alternator. It doesn't knock at idle, but as soon as you get it to alt
> least 
> 1500rpm, you can hear a scraping/knocking sound.
> 
> Is my intermediate shaft toast? Is this also why the car runs like crap
> when 
> cold? Flaky distributor timing because of the intermediate shaft on the
> way 
> out?
> 
> When the car is warm and running correctly, I observed the timing
> changing 
> when the engine revs, so the Hall sender is working correctly, as my
> Bentley 
> says..
> 
> I changed the fuel filter, too..
> 
> I have a problem, don't I?
> 
> -Dave
> '88 Fox wagon
> past '80-'84 Scirocco demolisher
> 
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