OT: German vs. Japanese car comparison

[mkii_84@yahoo.com (Andrew Wong)]

The fender that we took off was dented when my cousin
leaned himself on it.  I've tried it many times in my
Scirocco and haven't dented it yet.  I do agree with
reliablity with Japanese cars.  And I also don't
really care for their new cars unless it was disel.
--- Sebastian <smash593@shaw.ca> wrote:
> i think you got it backwards. the sciroccos fenders
> are thin as thin can be,
> and their interior is the most horrible thing on the
> planet. looks like
> leftovers from wwII :) heheh kinda exagerating. but
> for suspension and
> solidness i like my scirocco. for reliabilty i would
> always always by a
> japanese car. i just bought a nissan, a little work
> and this thing wil be
> way more reliable then my scirocco. but i agree with
> scott that my scirocco
> has character =). i also agree with whoever said
> that vw went downhill, i
> hate their new cars and i would never ever by any
> new vw. they lost all
> their character and they all look like friggin
> neons.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Wong" <mkii_84@yahoo.com>
> To: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@comcast.net>;
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: German vs. Japanese car comparison
> 
> 
> > I agree with a lot mentioned.  I've also always
> > wondered when I was younger why did our VW's doors
> > always had this solid feel while the Japanese car
> I
> > was riding in door's felt cheap.  I also noticed
> when
> > I was helping my cousin pop a dent out on his
> Toyota.
> > His fender felt like tin and was really light. 
> That
> > can be said about the trunk also.  The electircals
> on
> > the Japanese car didn't not look like a wiring
> > nightmare in my VW.  and the Fuses were easy to
> get
> > too.
> > --- "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > > I got in to a debate with a dude on another
> forum
> > > about German versus
> > > Japanese cars. Y'all might find some of this
> > > interesting...
> > >
> > > > :P  germain engeneering...  good luck...  have
> > > fun...  if you like
> > > > the buggers go for it...  and yes I know they
> are
> > > the same company,
> > > > yet it seems they don't share the same
> > > engeneers...
> > >
> > > Oh believe me, there is a helluva lot of cross
> > > pollination between the two
> > > branches. In fact, I've got lots of Audi parts
> in my
> > > VW. And, as I explained
> > > before there are lots of VW parts in the Audis.
> VAG
> > > is composed of VW, Audi,
> > > Skoda, and SEAT. Aside from trim pieces and
> other
> > > proprietary bits the cars
> > > share *lots* of genetic code.
> > >
> > > > their fuel injection and other electronic
> > > experiments leave much to
> > > > be desired...
> > >
> > > Its all Bosch stuff. -similar to what comes on
> > > Volvos, Saabs, BMWs, and
> > > Porsche. In fact, a lot of the Nippon-Denso
> > > equipment that you'll find in
> > > Toyotas, Mazdas, and Nissans is really Bosch
> stuff
> > > built under license. VW
> > > definitely did fall off the back of the quality
> > > truck back in the early 90s,
> > > though. The car's basic underpinnings were
> typically
> > > solid and reliable.
> > > However, certain electrical gremlins plagued the
> > > cars for several years.
> > >
> > > The truth is that German car reliability is
> simply
> > > different than that for
> > > Japanese products. In my experience, Japanese
> cars
> > > are typically very
> > > reliable and well-balanced appliances with
> little
> > > character and emotion.
> > > Engineering-wise they are very competent. On a
> day
> > > to day basis you just
> > > can't kill them! They run forever with little
> > > maintainance, thus making them
> > > superb daily drivers. On a soul level, however,
> they
> > > often lack.
> > >
> > > German vehicles, on the other hand usually
> require
> > > more regular
> > > maintainance. They've got little quirks and
> > > sometimes big quirks. But, they
> > > have tremendous amounts of personality and keep
> > > their solid feel for far
> > > longer. The main components (engines,
> transmissions,
> > > chassis, brakes,
> > > suspension) last forever under hard conditions
> > > whereas Japanese cars have
> > > typically worn out earlier. Close the door on a
> > > Japanese economy car and it
> > > feels like a tin can. Do same exercise on a 1977
> > > Rabbit and you get a solid
> > > "thunk".
> > >
> > > If both sides could just get together and
> combine
> > > the best attributes of
> > > their cars... then we'd have something truly
> > > tremendous. :^)
> > >
> > > >  + the price and wait on parts makes haveing a
> jap
> > > car
> > > > feel cheap...
> > >
> > > I agree with you 100% on this point!
> > > --
> > > Scott F. Williams
> > > NJ Scirocco nut
> > > '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
> > > Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
> > > Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
> > > ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > =====
> > -Andrew Wong
> > 1984 Black Scirocco
> > 1987 White Quantum wagon
> >
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1984 Black Scirocco
1987 White Quantum wagon

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