OT: German vs. Japanese car comparison

[smash593@shaw.ca (Sebastian)]

i think you got it backwards. the sciroccos fenders are thin as thin can be,
and their interior is the most horrible thing on the planet. looks like
leftovers from wwII :) heheh kinda exagerating. but for suspension and
solidness i like my scirocco. for reliabilty i would always always by a
japanese car. i just bought a nissan, a little work and this thing wil be
way more reliable then my scirocco. but i agree with scott that my scirocco
has character =). i also agree with whoever said that vw went downhill, i
hate their new cars and i would never ever by any new vw. they lost all
their character and they all look like friggin neons.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Wong" <mkii_84@yahoo.com>
To: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@comcast.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: OT: German vs. Japanese car comparison


> I agree with a lot mentioned.  I've also always
> wondered when I was younger why did our VW's doors
> always had this solid feel while the Japanese car I
> was riding in door's felt cheap.  I also noticed when
> I was helping my cousin pop a dent out on his Toyota.
> His fender felt like tin and was really light.  That
> can be said about the trunk also.  The electircals on
> the Japanese car didn't not look like a wiring
> nightmare in my VW.  and the Fuses were easy to get
> too.
> --- "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > I got in to a debate with a dude on another forum
> > about German versus
> > Japanese cars. Y'all might find some of this
> > interesting...
> >
> > > :P  germain engeneering...  good luck...  have
> > fun...  if you like
> > > the buggers go for it...  and yes I know they are
> > the same company,
> > > yet it seems they don't share the same
> > engeneers...
> >
> > Oh believe me, there is a helluva lot of cross
> > pollination between the two
> > branches. In fact, I've got lots of Audi parts in my
> > VW. And, as I explained
> > before there are lots of VW parts in the Audis. VAG
> > is composed of VW, Audi,
> > Skoda, and SEAT. Aside from trim pieces and other
> > proprietary bits the cars
> > share *lots* of genetic code.
> >
> > > their fuel injection and other electronic
> > experiments leave much to
> > > be desired...
> >
> > Its all Bosch stuff. -similar to what comes on
> > Volvos, Saabs, BMWs, and
> > Porsche. In fact, a lot of the Nippon-Denso
> > equipment that you'll find in
> > Toyotas, Mazdas, and Nissans is really Bosch stuff
> > built under license. VW
> > definitely did fall off the back of the quality
> > truck back in the early 90s,
> > though. The car's basic underpinnings were typically
> > solid and reliable.
> > However, certain electrical gremlins plagued the
> > cars for several years.
> >
> > The truth is that German car reliability is simply
> > different than that for
> > Japanese products. In my experience, Japanese cars
> > are typically very
> > reliable and well-balanced appliances with little
> > character and emotion.
> > Engineering-wise they are very competent. On a day
> > to day basis you just
> > can't kill them! They run forever with little
> > maintainance, thus making them
> > superb daily drivers. On a soul level, however, they
> > often lack.
> >
> > German vehicles, on the other hand usually require
> > more regular
> > maintainance. They've got little quirks and
> > sometimes big quirks. But, they
> > have tremendous amounts of personality and keep
> > their solid feel for far
> > longer. The main components (engines, transmissions,
> > chassis, brakes,
> > suspension) last forever under hard conditions
> > whereas Japanese cars have
> > typically worn out earlier. Close the door on a
> > Japanese economy car and it
> > feels like a tin can. Do same exercise on a 1977
> > Rabbit and you get a solid
> > "thunk".
> >
> > If both sides could just get together and combine
> > the best attributes of
> > their cars... then we'd have something truly
> > tremendous. :^)
> >
> > >  + the price and wait on parts makes haveing a jap
> > car
> > > feel cheap...
> >
> > I agree with you 100% on this point!
> > --
> > Scott F. Williams
> > NJ Scirocco nut
> > '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
> > Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
> > Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
> > ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
> >
> >
> >
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> =====
> -Andrew Wong
> 1984 Black Scirocco
> 1987 White Quantum wagon
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