<=86-87 8v scirocco bend-down at the nose??? (interesting)

[amalventano1@home.com (Allyn)]

Lol!
Who is to say isuzu didnt steal the design from vw???
Al

----- Original Message -----
From: "BHonnold" <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
To: "Scirocco Mailing List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:27 PM
Subject: RE: <=86-87 8v scirocco bend-down at the nose??? (interesting)


> Yet another reason to ditch that silly underperforming bastardization of
an
> Izusu Impulse the you call a MkII and get a MkI.
>
>
> BcH
> headed for a cave in Somalia to rap with my boy Osama
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Allyn
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 4:14 PM
> To: Aireq; Scirocco Mailing List
> Subject: Re: <=86-87 8v scirocco bend-down at the nose??? (interesting)
>
>
> This will help everyone see what i see.
> Notice (in aireqs pics), on the 16v, the body line on the fender curves.
On
> the 8v, the fender line is more straight, closer to making a straight line
> from the rear view to the turn signal. For this line to be more straight
and
> still meet in the same place at the nose, it has to angle somewhere. On 8v
> and below, this occurs at the fender-door seam. Along with this the bumper
> strip is straight behind the front wheel well and angled downward in front
> of it (16v is straight with the rest of the body line).
> Its very easy to see if you squat down in front, looking down the body
line.
> Not very easy to pick out in side view pics.
> I've got a bud in town with a 16v. I'll invite him over and take
comparison
> pics from the same angle for comparison.
> P.S. I've already got a nasty-mail from Patrick Bureau :) I'll cut/paste
> here (hope you dont mind, patrick).
> -----
> I hate you !
>
> until I read this message, I though the lines on the 8v I have where most
> wonderful, now you point this "bent" line 8v defect.... (where is my gun
> ????), I don't know what to do... Al, your eagle eye has totally crashed
and
> turn my lovely Prowler Orange Kamei X1 85 8v Scirocco into an ugly orang
> duckling....
>
>
> (Ahem!)
>
>
> Seriously, eagle eye you have, I never noticed the difference until i
> studied and used photoshop to over lap in layers the 2 pictures...
> yes, indeed, there is a slight angle on 8v body that the 16v does not seem
> to have... but the scirocco every one loved the first time around was the
> MKI and we owners of MKII 8v should remain proud of this heritage from the
> German sport car that has brought the second genration of the "fun at
55mph"
> that is the Scirocco, and the proof that remains of this heritage is that
> same fender "bent" live...
>
> (Ahem....! what? you did not know ?tonite, is sunday nite : the Patriotic
> Speech nite ... hehe )
>
>
> All. Yes to change the "angled 8v line fender" just swap'em for 16v
> fenderrs. should be a straight bolt on.
>
> <getting off soapbox and expecting aplauses>
>
> [-------------------------------------]
> [ A Texan's Scirocco - Patrick Bureau ]
> [ 1985 8v Prowler Orange Kamei X1 Roc ]
> [-------------------------------------]
> [ http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco   ]
> [-------------------------------------]
>
> -----
> Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
> 87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6)
> 86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX (shell donor ready to rock, still
> planning, rocco #7)
> 87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original clutch,
> driveshafts, wheels :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aireq" <aireq@u.washington.edu>
> To: "Scirocco Mailing List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:25 PM
> Subject: RE: <=86-87 8v scirocco bend-down at the nose??? (interesting)
>
>
> > My 16v:
http://students.washington.edu/aireq/images/Scirocco/P7250007.JPG
> > My 8v: http://students.washington.edu/aireq/8v/PC280024.JPG
> >
> >
> > looks the same to me?
> >
> >
> > aireq
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:scirocco-l-admin@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Allyn
> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:19 PM
> > To: Dan Bubb; scirocco list
> > Subject: Re: <=86-87 8v scirocco bend-down at the nose??? (interesting)
> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >     I'm tellin ya, theres a definite difference, but only in those 2
> lines.
> > All else is the same. I went through pics of my last 5 sciroccos. All
> 16v's
> > were straight, the 2 8v's had the bend. Now rocco #7 (3rd 8v), has the
> bend.
> > Its like a 5 degree angle downward right at the door/fender seam. I
think
> it
> > may have something to do with roccos being produced on 2 different
> assembly
> > lines. Perhaps one was tooled a bit different than the other. This is
> likely
> > since the 16v had some of the chassis reinforced at the frame level.
They
> > may have made that slight mod in straightening out the fender mount
point.
> > Who knows :P
> > Al
> >
> > Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
> > 87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6)
> > 86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX (shell donor ready to rock, still
> > planning, rocco #7)
> > 87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original
clutch,
> > driveshafts, wheels :)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>
> > To: "Allyn" <amalventano1@home.com>; "scirocco list"
> > <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: <=86-87 8v scirocco bend-down at the nose??? (interesting)
> >
> >
> > > I think you're hallucinating. ETKA (which I think you're familiar
with!)
> > > doesn't show any difference between 8V and 16V. I've personally never
> > > noticed any difference.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Allyn <amalventano1@home.com>
> > > To: scirocco list <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:12 PM
> > > Subject: <=86-87 8v scirocco bend-down at the nose??? (interesting)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Fellow listers,
> > > >     Looking at the project-mobile (86 8v) today i saw something
weird
> > > about
> > > > the body lines. This led me to think the body was tweaked... until i
> did
> > > > some research.
> > > >     Check out the silver scirocco 8v in this pic:
> > > > http://www.driversfound.com/scirocco/history/1987/broc-1987e.htm
> > > > Now compare it to any pic of any 16v scirocco.
> > > >     Is it just me or do 8v's seem to bend downward from front
fenders
> > > > forward. You can notice it big time by looking at the bumber strip
and
> > the
> > > > c-curve line (line that runs below the windows and ends at the front
> > turn
> > > > signal). It seems to take a definite angle once it gets to the front
> > > fender.
> > > > The only time i've seen this behavior in 16v's is if they have hit
> > > something
> > > > head-on.
> > > >     Now for the catch. How do i get mine, which looks like the
silver
> > one
> > > in
> > > > that pic, to look like a 16v (i.e. straight line vs. bent one). I
> think
> > it
> > > > may be something as simple as using 16v fenders, since i seriously
> doubt
> > > > they redesigned the frame to change a couple of body lines. If this
is
> > the
> > > > solution, who has a pair of 16v fenders??? (no kit needed).
> > > > Let me know any thoughts.
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > > Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
> > > > 87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6)
> > > > 86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX (shell donor ready to rock,
still
> > > > planning)
> > > > 87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original
> > clutch,
> > > > driveshafts, wheels :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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