Re: Ti retainers

["Craig Williams" <roccolister@hotmail.com>]

Cathy,

That seems like a pretty strange combination to me. Yes, the Ti retainers
will reduce weight, but to go with those without going with some HD springs
isn't an alternative to using HD springs. The HD springs are used to make
room for higher lobed cams that would cause stock springs to bind up. Since
the HD springs have fewer windings in them, they need to have a higher
spring rate, and that alone would actually decrease the output of your motor
(because they actually create more resistance.) So, using Ti spring
retainers is a way to gain some of that back since they weigh less than the
stock spring retainers.

Using Ti spring retainers with your stock springs could give you minimal
gains since your motor will be spinning less weight, but they in no way will
eliminate the need for HD springs...if that's what you need in the first
place. If you're just running a euro cam, I don't see the need for the HD
springs in the first place.

-- --Craig Williams
1981 Scirocco S 2008cc 16V (As seen in 01-2001 Sport Compact Car)
1991 Passat Wagon 2.0 16V (For the Wife & baby)
2000 Saab Viggen (20 psi, Turbo charged monster)
Northern California, USA

----- Original Message -----
From: rocco16v <rocco16v@netzero.net>
To: Cathy Boyko <losinit@usa.net>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Ti retainers


> Cathy-
>   Titanium retainers are a bunch of bucks for not much improvement.  IMHO,
> titanium anything is for high-budget racers who can afford to pay big for
> that last fraction of a gram, that last fraction of a horsepower.  Ti is
> wonderful stuff, no argument, but from a functionality standpoint, it's
not
> for "everyman".
>  Now, if you're after pure braggin' rights, ti components (because they
ARE
> expensive) are hard to beat.  :)
>
> Larry  sandiego16V
>
> PS If anyone needs titanium for a special project, I can get it from my
> work.  I made a nice ti engine brace for my oldest son's SP Fiesta, and
some
> ti radiator shrouding for Aventari's MkI is in the fabrication process.
Why
> did I use ti instead of aluminum or stainless steel?  Braggin' rights,
pure
> and simple.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cathy Boyko <losinit@usa.net>
> To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Re: Was: Stretch bolts vs. studs... Valve springs]
>
>
> Okay, a question, when my head was rebuilt , my "partner in crime" (the
> mechanic who rebuilt the head) suggested titanium retainers and stock
> springs
> as an alternative to the heavier springs (and that's what I have). Any
> comments? Nobody seems to mention this option, is there a reason? My
engine
> is
> only mildly modified (Euro cam, emissions legal) at this point anyway, but
> that was the goal of the person initially posting IIRC.
> Cathy
>
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