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chassis re-enforcement v.101

Subject: chassis re-enforcement v.101
From: rocco16v@netzero.net (L F)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 06:28:49 -0800
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Al-  the only way moving strut towers can induce more sway/roll is if =
they are moving up and down.  I don't think that is an issue.
  Scott is correct.=20
And Dave may have meant something else entirely....we get real creative =
with definitions sometimes.

Larry
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Allyn=20
  To: Scott F. Williams ; Rabbit16v ; Scirocco List=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 7:34 PM
  Subject: Re: chassis re-enforcement v.101


  if the towers flex, they will do so in a way that will allow the body =
to
  roll more than it already has, since that very roll is whats causing =
the
  stress/deflection to begin with.
  enough to notice? i doubt it. just bringing up the point.
  Al

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@comcast.net>
  To: "Rabbit16v" <Rabbit16v@attbi.com>; "Scirocco List"
  <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
  Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 10:31 PM
  Subject: RE: chassis re-enforcement v.101


  > Dave, how on Earth can any stress bar reduce "sway"? What exactly do =
you
  > mean by that word, anyway. :^) Are you referring to the elimination =
of
  roll?
  > That's the job of the coil springs and anti-roll bars (a.k.a. =
"sway"bars).
  > The upper strut brace (stress bar, etc.) simply keeps the strut =
towers
  from
  > moving apart from each other. However, the tendency to roll in =
corners is
  > not reduced a bit.
  > --
  > Scott F. Williams
  > NJ Scirocco nut
  > '99 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
  > Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" vehicle
  > Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"
  > ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers wanted."
  >
  > Dave wrote:
  > > I don't know what Shine would say about it but I think
  > > the braces add a little more rigidity and less sway in
  > > hard cornering.  This has just been my experience.
  >
  >
  >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Al-&nbsp; the only way moving strut =
towers can=20
induce more sway/roll is if they are moving up and down.&nbsp; I don't =
think=20
that is an issue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; Scott is =
correct.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And&nbsp;Dave may have meant something =
else=20
entirely....we get real creative with definitions =
sometimes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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  <A href=3D"mailto:amalventano@sc.rr.com"; =
title=3Damalventano@sc.rr.com>Allyn</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net"; =
title=3Dsfwilliams@comcast.net>Scott F.=20
  Williams</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:Rabbit16v@attbi.com"=20
  title=3DRabbit16v@attbi.com>Rabbit16v</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"; =
title=3Dscirocco-l@scirocco.org>Scirocco=20
  List</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 25, =
2002 7:34=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: chassis =
re-enforcement=20
  v.101</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>if the towers flex, they will do so in a way that will =
allow=20
  the body to<BR>roll more than it already has, since that very roll is =
whats=20
  causing the<BR>stress/deflection to begin with.<BR>enough to notice? i =
doubt=20
  it. just bringing up the point.<BR>Al<BR><BR>----- Original Message=20
  -----<BR>From: "Scott F. Williams" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:sfwilliams@comcast.net";>sfwilliams@comcast.net</A>&gt;<BR>=
To:=20
  "Rabbit16v" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:Rabbit16v@attbi.com";>Rabbit16v@attbi.com</A>&gt;; =
"Scirocco=20
  List"<BR>&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A>&gt;<B=
R>Sent:=20
  Wednesday, December 25, 2002 10:31 PM<BR>Subject: RE: chassis =
re-enforcement=20
  v.101<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Dave, how on Earth can any stress bar reduce =
"sway"?=20
  What exactly do you<BR>&gt; mean by that word, anyway. :^) Are you =
referring=20
  to the elimination of<BR>roll?<BR>&gt; That's the job of the coil =
springs and=20
  anti-roll bars (a.k.a. "sway"bars).<BR>&gt; The upper strut brace =
(stress bar,=20
  etc.) simply keeps the strut towers<BR>from<BR>&gt; moving apart from =
each=20
  other. However, the tendency to roll in corners is<BR>&gt; not reduced =
a=20
  bit.<BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; Scott F. Williams<BR>&gt; NJ Scirocco =
nut<BR>&gt; '99=20
  Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS<BR>&gt; Mazda 323 GTX turbo "assaulted" =
vehicle<BR>&gt;=20
  Golf GTI 16v "rollycar"<BR>&gt; ClubVAC: "Roads found. Drivers=20
  wanted."<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Dave wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; I don't know what =
Shine=20
  would say about it but I think<BR>&gt; &gt; the braces add a little =
more=20
  rigidity and less sway in<BR>&gt; &gt; hard cornering.&nbsp; This has =
just=20
  been my experience.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; Scirocco-l =
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