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RE: Badger 5 t-bodies

To: "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@home.com>, Cheapass Ron <rapieper@yahoo.com>, Lauri Pettai <lauri.pettai@netexpress.ee>
Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
From: Cheapass Ron <rapieper@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:00:14 -0700 (PDT)
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
In-Reply-To: <NDBBIKPFOKBJCOINBGGIIEEGEEAA.sfwilliams@home.com>
Sender: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org

Well, it'd be over the tranny, but farther removed than the factory
piece is.

My other brainstorm is something behind the front fenderwell...

Ron


--- "Scott F. Williams" <sfwilliams@home.com> wrote:
> Ya, but running the duct from the fresh air area would necessitate
> running a
> duct over the hot engine. I fear that it would get heat soaked and
> negate
> the gains. It would also add a goofy-looking apparatus cluttering up
> the
> engine bay. -not at all important from a racing point of view, but
> not quite
> what this guy is looking for on the street.
> 
> My two ideas are to install a shorter/wider radiator (i.e. compared
> to my 8v
> rad. Roughly 16v width but 2" shorter...), or to section the radiator
> support to move the stock unit down the same distance. I'm not sure
> which is
> more work but I'd probably go with the custom rad setup...
> 
> Hmmm...
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Cheapass Ron
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:24 AM
> > To: Lauri Pettai; Scott F. Williams
> > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
> >
> >
> > Has anyone investigated obtaining cold intake air from the fresh
> air
> > area (by the firewall)?  The intake from the airbox would be ducted
> > back to the "tray", a port would be added easily enough, water
> drainage
> > is already done...if one would want to add some external ducting,
> it
> > could be in the form of a little scoop over the existing vents in
> the
> > hood...
> >
> > Worth considering?
> >
> > Ron
> > --- Lauri Pettai <lauri.pettai@netexpress.ee> wrote:
> > > I've been wondering, is there a possibility to rebuild the
> > > front end of the Scirocco so that you can unscrew it if you
> > > like? Like you can do it with golfs. Then I'd do it so that
> > > I'd put the radiator a bit lower to make the room for the
> > > cool air intake. Lot of custom building, but it might be
> > > worth it?
> > >
> > > Hood scoop thingie is not going to work as the place where
> > > you'd have to put the scoop has actually vacuum in there.
> > > So no air is going to go in from there. Only out.
> > >
> > > Lauri!
> > > '84 2.0 16v Scirocco GTX Kamei X1 Bodykit (VIN025736)
> > > http://www.eabc.edu.ee/~laurts/scirocco
> > > I finally added something new to my site!
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Scott F.
> > > Williams
> > > > Sent: 04. september 2001. a. 22:54
> > > > To: Lauri Pettai
> > > > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > Subject: RE: Badger 5 t-bodies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As some may know, I have considered and researched these
> throttle
> > > bodies for
> > > > my own car. I absolutely do not want install a scoop in my
> hood.
> > > So, I'm
> > > > looking into costs for a custom-built rad that is shorter and
> wider
> > > -thus
> > > > allowing cool air to flow in through the grill. Or, perhaps
> there
> > > is a stock
> > > > fitment for another car that'll do the trick. I'll follow up
> with
> > > some
> > > > details later.
> > > > ______________________________
> > > > Scott F. Williams
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> > > > scott.williams@genuity.com
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of T Berk
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:29 PM
> > > > > To: Lauri Pettai
> > > > > Cc: Victor Farren; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Badger 5 t-bodies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lauri Pettai wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok the manufacturer of the TB's went the easy way and
> drilled a
> > > > > hole to the
> > > > > > 4th runner and tapped the vacuum line there and that's it.
> I'm
> > > > > a bit afraid
> > > > > > to do
> > > > > > this as it would make the cyl's to work uneqally and on
> racing
> > > > > conditions
> > > > > > with lot of sudden and strong breaking etc. it could melt
> your
> > > > > pistons. :(
> > > > > > I already worr about my engine as two cylinders get the hot
> air
> > > > > trough the
> > > > > > radiator and two cylinders get the cool air directly from
> > > > > grill. And already
> > > > > > that's
> > > > > > not good. So lots of work to do still. I'm wondering is
> there
> > > > > any radiators
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > are long and not very high so that I could use the upper
> part
> > > > > of the grill
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > feed cool air to throttlebodies and lower to cool the
> water?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The 1st thing I thought was a hood scoop to feed cool outside
> > > air. Put a
> > > > > screen across it to keep large chunks out and away you go.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks cool with those trumpets on there; one of the things I
> > > don't like
> > > > > about the cross flow motors is the intake runners across the
> top
> > > of the
> > > > > head. Makes later model engines too tall for Sciroccos.
> > > > >
> > > > > TBerk
> > > > >
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> >
> > =====
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