Re: FN vs. 4K?

["Allyn" <amalventano1@home.com>]

Aaron,
    I think a FN may be a tad tall for a stock scirocco if you want any kind
of sporting feel to it. Now on the other hand, if you have a better engine
in there, its a different story. The FN has a shorter first than even a 4K
(after final drive), so its pretty quick off the line (as long as you can
keep the wheels on the ground). The FNs long gearing makes it more suited
for a beefed up engine. Example: I have an FN in the Rieger, and i couldnt
be happier with it. I have shrick 276's and tt race exhaust. It beefs up the
low end enough to drive normally without going over 2500-3000 rpm (yay for
long engine life), but when i wanna put sone cheezy civic in the dust, i use
the 'hand of god' power band between 4500-6000 rpm. Cruising on the highway
is a treat: 100 mph at ~4000 aint half bad. I can hold 130 or so in 5th with
no problem, since it puts me better in the powerband. On top of that all,
the FN is almost like a 6 speed 4K. Now dont get me wrong, i would kill for
a 6 speed quaifed 4K (or even same done to AGB), but i'll deal with the
slightly wider shifts and the extra $2000 in my pocket.
Also note: based on years each tranny was produced, the FN is also less
prone to self-machining syndrome.
Al

Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6) running - for now
87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original clutch,
driveshafts, wheels :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Ness" <aaron@makuta.com>
To: "scirocco (E-mail)" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:12 PM
Subject: FN vs. 4K?


> I'm getting very close to doing an engine swap in my '82 (replacing the EN
> with my JH), and I need some feedback on which tranny to use.  I have the
FN
> currently in my '82 (3.89 final, 3.45, 1.94, 1.29, .91, .71, according to
> Scirocco.org), and its only problem seems to be a worn synchro for 3rd.
> Last night I pulled the 4K off of my JH and found that the pushrod seal is
> shot - I can wiggle the pushrod significantly within the input shaft.
Gear
> ratios for the 4K are 3.94 final, 3.45, 2.12, 1.44, 1.13, .89.  The 4K
> grinds into 2, 3, and 4, and tends to 7jump out of reverse if I go too
fast.
> I drove it for only a short time before I decided the car was beyond hope
> and found my '82.
>
> I don't have any funds to put into this (I'm even keeping the stock
> single-outlet manifold, after I searched high and low for a dual and
finally
> found one here in town that I could get) and I need the car only to get me
> through until the spring, at which time I should be able to either spend
> some money on it or sell it and get one in better shape.  Incidentally, I
> love the car, and it's been very good to me, requiring very little time or
> money over about 18 months that I've owned it.
>
> Considering the comparatively high output of the JH, would I be happy
> keeping the FN tranny, or would I be likely to be badly disappointed?
>
> The biggest reasons for the swap, BTW, are that the JH is just sitting
here
> and is in great shape, I need to replace the rear trans mount studs with
> bolts because they are stripped, and I need to drill the two additional
> mounting holes for my lower stress bar.  Apart from that, it's a good
excuse
> to replace tired motor mounts.
>
> All opinions are welcome, but remember, I (or my wife) don't want to sink
> cash into rebuilding the 4K if the car will be significantly better than
it
> currently is by keeping the FN.
>
> TIA...
> Aaron
> '87 528e
> '82 Scirocco
> '70 Beetle
> '82 GPz550
>
>
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