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RE: Bridgestone, was tire size question.



At 07:10 AM 11/14/2001, Patrick Bureau wrote:

>HUmm check tire rack for you this morning. and I listed the prices and
>ratings.
>
>220-AA-A Potenza Re370 - 79$
>220-AA-A Potenza S03 - 86$ (on Special)
>240-A-A Michelin Pilot Exalto - 125$
>300-A-A Michelin Pilot SX GT - 51 (on special)
>240-A-A Pirelli P7000 - 45$ (ON Special)
>300-A-A Pirelli P700Z - 59$
>\

Holy Shit!  S03s are on special for $86!?!? I'll be buying my set this 
afternoon!  Dammmmmn!  Thanks for the tip!


>Aside from the Michelin Exalto, the bfgoodridge are more expensive than any
>of my tires I have selected, and that is not counting that the S03 potenza
>are on special.

I just looked at the Tire Rack's site, and found some interesting stuff though:

RE730, (Ultra high Per) rated 3rd in its class by users, Z-Rated, AA-A Rating.
S-03, (Max per) rated 1st in its class by users (with 9.3 buy again!), 
W-Rated, AA-A Rating.
Pilot Exalto - (just high perf), H-Rated!!, A-A Rating and ridiculously 
expensive
Pilot SX GT (UHP), V-Rated, A-A,. and rated 8th in its class.

Pirellis -- well I won't go there, I don't think you were considering them 
anyway.

Bottom line is look at those specs!  Sure, we're not driving at 165mph, so 
speed rating seems irrelevant, but it's really not.  It's a good measure of 
the tire's overall resistance to heat at high speeds and overall 
strength.  The better a tire is designed and made, the higher its speed 
rating.  If you combine that with pricing, traction and temp ratings, the 
Bridgestones look (to me, anyways) as the better value.


>As for rating I am not looking for a 400-AA-AA rating, I like soft comfy
>traction on dry and wet, I am not asking for the end of the world
>here.(grin)

It's all what's important to you really.  I want the best grip possible on 
my car and no noise.  Treadwear is relatively irrelevant to me.


>Note : My Micheline allseason MX4 Last me an easy 80K before needing
>replacement, I know what tires LAST long, But I am lowering the car when I
>get to texas (H&R/Bilstein) and finally getting a nice set of ATS Cups
>Wheels, I want something a little more "sporty" without sacraficing too much
>to the quality, and duration of the tire on teh road.

Sporty?  Or sport?  That's the difference between a Pontiac Grand Am and a 
Porsche 911. :)


>I don't like to spend 50$ on a 35K tire. I rather spend 90$ on a 80K of same
>rating.

Then don't get a tire in 195/50-15. :)  Most of the tires that size are 
made for really high-perf driving.  Why not stick with the stock size and 
go with something more comfortable that will wear better?



>Jesus christ has nothing to do with my driving, nor is he my co-pilot
>(GRIN)

LOL, then why do your passengers keep screaming it?  (out of fear I 
guess...) ;)


>, what 50K a year is a lot ? thats only 137 Miles per day. I do an
>easy 30 miles to work, 30 back from work, and well 40 to spare (rocco's are
>fun to drive aren't day... ?) maybe the problem is you park it too much
>(GRIN)- D.U.C.K.I.N.G - and you dont drive enought. (BWGrin)

Oooohhh you poor, deluded boy! :)
<smack>
I drive about 30,000 miles a year, which is almost triple the national 
average.  Considering that my commute to work and back is a whopping 4 
miles round trip, I'd say that I drive nearly as much as you for 
pleasure.  You drive 15k miles a year to work and back alone!

I'd also like to stress that I have THREE cars!  I can't possibly put 
15,000 miles on each car per year.  And also, the Scirocco doesn't go 
anywhere near places where it would be subjected to the unwashed masses -- 
no parking lots, malls, shopping centers, city lots, never parked on the 
streets, etc.  That severely limits the amount I can drive it.  The good 
thing is that almost every mile I put on the Scirocco is recreational -- 
none of that sitting in traffic shit or commuting.  It's a special car and 
gets driven on special occasions, and I enjoy it more because of it.

And dare I say, Monsier Bureau, that if your car looked like mine, you 
wouldn't be driving it all over either.  <duck>  [RUN}. :)



> >Free Speech -- you're in Texas now dammit!
>
>Humm Not yet baby I still have to wait until the embassy provisdes me with
>that paper in my passport (30-60 days).

OMG I didn't know that.  Well what the hell are you doing?  You still have 
time!  Don't do it!  Don't do it I say!  Stay out of Texas you poor 
Canadian boy!  You don't know what you're in for... :)

...all in fun.
Jason





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