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Re: sudden car death (fuel pump dead?)

To: grostad@thresholdnetworks.com, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: sudden car death (fuel pump dead?)
From: "Chris DeLong" <green536@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 06:38:25 -0000
Sender: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>
>I have my fuel filter out, how safe/effective is it to test the fuel
>pump by jumping the relay terminals?  The fuel pump won't spark
>and ignite my whole car or something will it?

No. Just dont have a cigarette or propane torch nearby.

BTW how much gas is in your car?


>
>I jumped the pump while it was in and the thing doesn't quite
>sound up to par, it's more of a "mmuuuurrrr" sound than the usual
>"whhhhizzzzzz" that I'm used to.  (Were those good text-based
>sound effects or what?)  Could this be a problem?  I could see
>a bump in the road making the fuel pump fail but would it still
>sound like it's running but still be dead?
>
>Geordy Rostad wrote:
>
>>Cheapass Ron wrote:
>>
>>>NOw it's starting to sound like a fuel pump...but you
>>>BTDT, right?
>>
>>
>>Welllll, not exactly, I turn the key, I hear the fuel pump.  Aside
>>from that,
>>I crank the motor and I think I still here the fuel pump.  What is the
>>easy way
>>to check and see if I have actual flow?
>>
>>>Can you set it to TDC and see where the
>>>cam mark lines up?  That'll tell you whether your cam
>>>timing is off.
>>
>>
>>
>>You mean the mark on the timing belt gear on the cam?
>>And see if what lines up?  Is there a mark under that
>>inspection plug on the trans?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>--- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Does anyone thing I may have a fuel problem?  I just
>>>>replace my injector seals btw.
>>>>Could it be a fuel filter?  Maybe I went over a bump
>>>>and dislodged a grain of muck and clogged
>>>>it?  Could the fuel pump shaft separate from the
>>>>pump mechanism so that it sounds like
>>>>it's spraying fuel but actually not...?   What is
>>>>the easy method to check fuel flow?
>>>>
>>>>When I put the new airboot on it almost started and
>>>>then died so I don't think it's spark
>>>>or timing.  It only does the almost start and then
>>>>die thing after having sat for quite a
>>>>while.
>>>>
>>>>Geordy
>>>>'88 jetta 16v
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>geordy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I want to replace the t-belt anyways since I have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>absolutely no idea
>>>>
>>>>>how long it has been on there.
>>>>>BTW, It died when I hit a bump in the road, my
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>scirocco did the same
>>>>
>>>>>thing to my brother one
>>>>>time, he hit a bump (or jump) in the road and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>threw the timing off and
>>>>
>>>>>it ran shitty all the way home.
>>>>>Mine just died, I wonder what's up...
>>>>>
>>>>>I put the airbox/intake stuff back together and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>the car still wouldn't
>>>>
>>>>>start.  I left all of the other
>>>>>belts off however...  I wouldn't think that would
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>be a problem.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>16v Jason wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Doesn't have to be that huge!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you were able to see daylight in there, you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>have about 0 chance
>>>>
>>>>>>that the car will run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's your problem from the sound of it.  Try to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>start the car with
>>>>
>>>>>>a new one on there before you kill yourself
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>checking the timing belt.
>>>>
>>>>>>And why you going through so much trouble to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>check the belt this
>>>>
>>>>>>way?  Couldn't you just have taken the upper
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>cover off without doing
>>>>
>>>>>>all that other shit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 01:17 AM 5/9/01 , Geordy Rostad wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's not THAT large, but when I removed the pipe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>between the two
>>>>
>>>>>>>boots I saw
>>>>>>>daylight...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Brett Van Sprewenburg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Also, I have noticed a big tear in the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>throttle body air boot.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just so I can be the first.... :)
>>>>>>>>But this is probably the reason your car won't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>run, or start, or
>>>>
>>>>>>>>what-ever...
>>>>>>>>Any tear in the boot is likely to cause running
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>problems, a large
>>>>
>>>>>>>>one will cause the car not to run at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>all...probably got your culprit
>>>>
>>>>>>>>there.
>>>>>>>>==Brett
>>>>>>>>\/  '84 Scirocco (ITB racer 2B) | "Hot VW's,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>take two home. They're
>>>>
>>>>>>>>small"
>>>>>>>>\/\/ '88 Scirocco 16v (Show), '92 Passat 16v
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>(Winter+) | -
>>>>
>>>>>>>>brett@netacc.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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