I think a day with your car would be a rather enlightening experience for him. I say you do it! I think he'd appreciate the song of a built 2.0 16V in a lightweight car! Tom www.area-53.com -- Email LIST problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org. To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org