I like the Vortex, so many more people to offend at all levels!! Though I have to agree, it seems that a good many of the posters need ...a brain. Josh[deady]Able 87 16v seidl -- Email LIST problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org. To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org