Re: RE: Velocity 16V Cam setup/260 intake cam with stockexhuast?

["Victor Farren" <vfarren@rrs.cdie.org>]

Kris from Velocity actually faxed me the dyno print outs from his various experiments.  He clearly writes on one of the printouts that the Euro intkae w/ the Euro cam is the best streetable combo until 6000 rpms.  It may not give you the most absolute hp and torque, but it gives you the most useable.  If you are looking for all out power, then the Euro intake and cam are not the best combo, but how many of us spend significant time above 6k rpms?

Of course, all the tests were with a 2.0L w/ mildly ported 1.8 head and TT header running on a Motronic system.

Victor

>>> "Shannon Fenton" <sfenton@amazon.com> 10/06 1:11 PM >>>
well the EC article sucked but they tested 6 different sets of cams and some
combinations the 260in and 276 out was the best for keeping mid range torque
and high rev power. I dont understand either why they wouldnt come like that
from the factory if it was a truly ideal setup. My only guess is that on the
Velocity car it proved ideal with the particular mods that were done. The
euro intake cam is a 253 right? I wonder if one could just buy the 260
intake cam and use it with a stock exhaust cam?

Shannon Fenton
Telecom Resource Management
Amazon.com
206.266.6736

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Williams [mailto:sfwilliams@home.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:10 PM
To: Shannon Fenton; Scirocco List
Subject: RE: Velocity 16V Cam setup and 50mm manifold...


So, what are the benefits of the combo cam set up supposed to be, anyway?
I've got a pair of 260s in my car right now. I haven't a clue as to how
they'll perform because I haven't taken the car out for a hell ride yet.
However, I'm always thinking ahead as to how I can get MORE!

Yeah, what is the 276 bumpstick supposed to do? And why wouldn't the
engineers at Schrick have designed the system that way? There's got to be a
compromise in there somewhere. Have a clue as to what it is?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
> [mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Shannon Fenton
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:02 PM
> To: Scirocco List
> Subject: Velocity 16V Cam setup and 50mm manifold...
>
>
> I just talked to someone at velocity about thier article in Eurpean Car
> (ukk..i feel like a chump for buying that garbage)and the Shrick
> 260 intake
> and 276 exhuast cam combo is $710.00! In case you havnt read the
> article its
> poorly written as with most thier articles and contains some interesting
> dyno charts with different 16V cam set ups and they say how vital the 50mm
> intake manifold. This was repeated by the rep on the phone with
> me, velocity
> sells the new 50mm intakes for 800.00. He said I would see an
> increase with
> the cam setup on my current motor but to truly realize the gain I
> needed the
> 50mm manifold. The european car aritcle starts with a 9A 2.0 16V with a
> mildly ported 1.8 head with a valve job and euro intake cam
> running Motronic
> chipped by GIAC. They state a 14hp increase running a TT race
> header and the
> 50mm manifold. So, ymmv and this was a pretty built motor to
> start out with.
>
> Shannon Fenton
> Telecom Resource Management
> Amazon.com
> 206.266.6736
>
>
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