Re: 16V upgrade opinions, please.

["Ryan Schuermann" <rts@nol.net>]

yup.

Extrude hone said they would do my manifolds, at 425$ apiece
but would not gaurentee the work due to the thin aluminum often they 
break them. 

In my own opinion EH is not worth the money for our cars, maybe
for motorcycle and special drag-racing applications on big block V8s
i would use them, they are supposidly GODS in the moto world.
on our cars bigger runners are better, if its a 16v, go get the euro
intake somewhere somehow, if it's an 8v, switch to an A2 intake
manifold, and end up relocating your complete fuel system to the 
passenger side. Either way stock or upgraded, get the manifolds 
ported and polished. 

I've done a few manifolds, 8v A1, 8v A2, 16v, and VR6 and they
come out smooth as glass where it counts, where it's most 
restrictive, especially on an A1, I increase the runner diameters
where it's most restrictive so much, I get a good cup worth of
metal shavings (yeah I have measured it), but you really don't need
to get the top and beginning runners, the air is swirling in there 
anyways from the t-body venturis. if ya got the money, risk it with 
EH, their stuff is dynamite, the whole manifold is smoothed out.
or save yourself 50% and get someone to p/p yours. any speed shop
should have a p/p contact.

Ryan

> At 8:34 pm -0400 4/10/98, Shawn C Meze wrote:
> >>2. euro intake runners
> >
> >Possible. If you can find them. It might be cheaper to have your unstake
> >extrude honed and have the same result.
> >              Shawn Meze
> >86' Jetta GLi           82' Scirocco GTi
> >The Fastest, Quickest, Cleanest and
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> 
> This comes up every now and again when discussion turns to 16v intake
> runners.  Didn't Ryan say once that Extrude Hone refused to do our intakes
> because their process didn't work well with our aluminum manifolds?
> Something about them not willing to be liable if they honed holes in some
> of the thinner sections?
> 
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