F-1 - Whatever happened to these?

[jmair at urbanout.com (Joe Mair)]

Hey, as a bean counter by trade, I resent that remark.  For the record,
I would like to encourage such spending.  Perhaps I need to work for
Audi or VW...

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Bubb [mailto:jdbubb@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:47 AM
To: LEF
Cc: Scirocco List
Subject: Re: F-1 - Whatever happened to these?

Racing, of course, is mostly about racing.
But there have been numerous instances where "racing improves the
breed".
Rules for the various racing classes are generally pretty restrictive so
out and out technical innovation in racing isn't all that common
anymore, but certainly the pace of development of automotive
technologies is a lot faster in racing and that carries over when the
cost isn't prohibitive.

One of the latest areas that I suspect will be of benefit to the average
automaker as CAFE standards get higher and higher are the various
surface coating and friction reduction techniques routinely used in
Formula 1.
As engine RPM increases friction increases as the square of the speed.
As a result you'd expect the engine's torque per unit displacement and
BMEP to decrease with RPM. Before F1 engines were limited to 19,000 RPM
this year they had been approaching 20,000 RPM for a race distance.
What's interesting is that the torque and BMEP have not dropped even at
these stratospheric RPM due to surface coating and friction reduction
techniques. Maybe not blockbuster technology that you can wave at the
world, but good solid development that's applicable to any internal
combustion engine to improve its mileage.
Perhaps would have been developed without racing if you had a permanent
rescue squad for the bean counters, but nothing like the racing
environment to push the development envelope.
Dan


From: "LEF" <rocco16@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "brad boston" <boston813roc@xxxxxxxxx>; "Dan Bubb"
<jdbubb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Scirocco List" <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: F-1 - Whatever happened to these?


> Racing, whether it is F1, ice skating, U/C model aircraft, or belt
sanders, 
> has never bore much relevance to the real world.....
> 
> larry
> sandiego16v
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/7/07, Dan Bubb <jdbubb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> You mean the 6 wheels?
>>> Banned.
>>> Williams F1 engineering was developing a 6 wheeled car with 2 front,
4
>>> rear that got rid of the huge barn door rear tires. Significantly
faster,
>>> but banned just in the nick of time.
>>> Thank god the F1 rule makers ban these sorts of things so that the
"most
>>> technologically advanced racing series in the world" has NO
technical
>>> relevance or benefit to the everyday world!
>>> Dan
> 
>


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