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Gas in the oil, HELP :(
If you have a constant spray from the injectors you may have an air flow
sensor that is letting fuel flow to the injectors when the sensor plate is
at rest.1st you might want to adjust the sensor plate lower.you should be
able to adjust it untill the injectors stop flowing.If that fails you could
have a sticky fuel dist.plunger.but that is not very likely.While your in
there make sure the air flow sensor plate is centered in the opening and it
should be just about level with the narrowest part of the housing.
It sounds like it will be running soon.Hang in there, it will be worth
it.
ole blue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lexan Blanchard" <lexan_122874@hotmail.com>
To: <dan.bubb@gmail.com>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Gas in the oil, HELP :(
> OK, took some SERIOUS fighting, but I finally got the injectors out, and
> located a jumper wire that could hold a 16 amp fuse (that was a fiasco in
> itself). And, yes, the little O-rings were crispy rings, so that was some
> of the problem.
>
> So, I have discovered a new use for empty beer bottles: injector/cold
> start valve testing areas (man, the things you come up with in
> desperation)! Each injector and CSV got its own bottle so I could tell
> right away what was going on.
>
> As I figured, the CSV is good to go. No gas coming out.
>
> The injectors, on the other hand, ARGHHHHHHH! My mom even said, "Oh,
> you're frustrated, I'll come back later." All 4 sprayed gas when the fuel
> pump was jumped. They spray a beautiful cone-shaped pattern, but they
> shouldn't be spraying.
>
> So, guess this answers the question of why I have fuel in my oil. Now,
> what do you guys recommend? Does this mean I just need to adjust the
> mixture screw? Or do I need to put 4 new injectors on order? Or is this
> something completely different?
>
> Thanks again! Hopefully once this is right and the oil is changed, she
> will start. The fuel that came out of the injectors looked pretty clean
> and smelled like gas, so I may have finished cycling out the old stuff out
> of the lines.
>
> Lexan
>
>
>
>>From: "Dan Bubb" <dan.bubb@gmail.com>
>>To: "Lexan Blanchard" <lexan_122874@hotmail.com>
>>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>>Subject: Re: Gas in the oil, HELP :(
>>Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:13:49 -0400
>>
>>Gas in the oil pretty much needs to come from the injectors past the
>>pistons and piston rings, which as you note, isn't good.
>>This is either the cold start injector staying open or the regular
>>injectors injecting too much fuel.
>>What I would do is pull all of the injectors including the cold start
>>injector and aim them all into a pan. Then I'd jumper the fuel pump
>>relay, or if you don't have a jumper cycling the ignition key several
>>times every couple seconds should cause the fuel pump to run for a
>>short period of time for each cycle. Don't crank the engine! Just
>>cycle the ignition off and on.
>>
>>ANY fuel in the pan would indicate a problem. If you're not cranking
>>the cold start injector should not flow any fuel. And neither should
>>the regular injectors since there is no air flowing past the metering
>>plate.
>>
>>If you do have fuel in the pan, then the next step would be to
>>segregate the cold start injector from the regular injectors to
>>isolate where the problem is.
>>If it's the cold start injector then the Bentley has an excellent
>>section on diagnosing that.
>>If it's the regular injectors then it may be as simple as readjusting
>>the mixture screw counterclockwise although if that doesn't do it then
>>the problem would be more serious as Jim mentioned.
>>BTW, all this excess fuel getting pushed past the pistons into the oil
>>may also have the effect of somewhat hydrolocking the engine
>>contributing to your poor cranking performance.
>>Also, as Jim pointed out, it'd be good to change the oil before
>>actually running the engine again.
>>Keep us posted on what you find.
>>Dan
>>
>>On 3/17/07, Lexan Blanchard <lexan_122874@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>Well, winter decided to return today, which ended any ideas I had to
>>>garden,
>>>or clean up the Purple Martin gourds (birds are here and calling me a
>>>slum
>>>lord for not taking care of their residences), so off to retrieve the
>>>Rocco
>>>from the meadow (where she was banned to last week).
>>>
>>>Still trying to finish cycling out the old gas, and figuring I am getting
>>>close. Also, I figured out what went pop-whooosh last weekend (loose
>>>hose
>>>clamp, hehe). Tried starting several times and ran the battery low
>>>(GOTTA
>>>find the short or bad wire, darn it).
>>>
>>>I have noticed a gassy smell every time I try to start, so, figured I
>>>better
>>>poke around a bit. Pulled dipstick (don't ask me why I started here),
>>>and
>>>the "oil" just dripped off. Figured this couldn't be good since when I
>>>looked at it last it was oil. Smells like gas, has consistency of gas
>>>(maybe a bit thicker) and color of fresh oil :( Even with my limited
>>>knowledge, I KNOW this isn't good.
>>>
>>>So, how is this much gas getting into my oil? What is my next step? All
>>>ideas and help are SUPER appreciated, as every day that passes puts her
>>>visit to Cincy less likely.
>>>
>>>Thanks all!
>>>Lexan
>>>'82 8V
>>>
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