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92 Jetta Digi no start problems UPDATE
Ok when you were saying it could be a B not and 8 you are talking about the
flywheel? they are spaced out about 8 degrees from the 0 mark there.
The markings I have on my intermediate are 0 a line and a T on one tooth and
another dot about 70-80 degrees (maybe 100 haven't looked that closely) I
just know it's not close to the 0T tooth. I have the same markings on my
camshaft gear. I have not found a dot on the inside of the camshaft yet,
but I'm getting ready to go out and mess around with it for awhile.
I need to get this sucker running. I'm out of a DD right now because my
regular Jetta has tranny problems and I figure this one is the easiest and
quickest fix.
Anyway I've got the crank lined up as you said. flywheel on 0 and the notch
is facing up. I don't have any cover on the timing belt right now so the
notch is facing up not at any arrow.
I will align the dot in the intermediate shaft with the notch and check the
dizzy lineup. Then I'm going to try to find the inside dot on the camshaft.
If I find it I will align it with the front edge of the head and valvecover.
Is this correct? What if I don't find a dot? What are the markings on the
front of the camshaft for?
Thanks
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'David Brown'" <sharpshooter33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'scirocco scirocco'"
<scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: RE: 92 Jetta Digi no start problems UPDATE
> Now the notch on the crank pulley/vibration damper should point up,
> pointing
> to the arrow in the TB cover, in- line with the block.
> When you line up the dot on the intermediate pulley, with the crank
> pulley,
> the rotor should line up with the notch on the distributor, if not, adjust
> it. If the rotor is 180 deg out, you can either rotate the engine one
> complete revolution and re-check everything, or adjust the distributor, if
> possible, the connector could get in the way.
>
> Then turn the cam gear so that the inside dot, the one facing the valve
> cover, lines up with the top of the head, with the valve cover installed,
> where the bolts and the valve cover bolt strip goes.
>
> You can verify the crank pulley position with the flywheel, which should
> point to o.
>
> Once you get it started, you can set the distributor to 6 deg BTDC, with a
> timing light.
>
> HTH!
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Brown [mailto:sharpshooter33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:26 PM
> To: scirocco scirocco
> Subject: Re: 92 Jetta Digi no start problems UPDATE
>
> Ok here's my state of affairs on this problem I found the line up hole in
> the tranny case. Nice little arrow. turned the motor until it locked up
> one
> way and was hard to turn. turned it the other way until it showed the 0
> and
> 8 lines. it hungup right before the 0. The timing marks on the camshaft
> and
> intermediate are FUBAR by what I can tell from the Bentley. I didn't find
> a
> line or dot on the back of the camshaft crank that would match up with the
> outside of the casing shown in the pic in the Bentley. I will look again
> tomorrow since I was in a hurry tonight.
>
> I pulled the timing belt off, because it just didn't look right so I
> figured
> I would start with a clean slate and line everything up.
>
> Currently I have the crank on the 0 line (I'm wondering what the 8 line is
> for? probably 8 advance, but when do I use it?)
>
> The lines on the front side of my intermediate and camshaft show a 0 then
> a
> line then T on one tooth. The PO used these 2 to line them up both
> facing
> directly up. I don't think this was even close and I don't know how he
> got
> it running. The Bently shows lining up the dot on the back and not the
> writing on the front of the camshaft gear. The line on the intermediate
> is
> shown lined up with a groove in the crank vibration dampener.
>
> I'm so confused.... I got the crank lined up with the tranny housing at 0.
>>From there where do I go? Do I try to find the marks stated in the
>>Bentley
> or do I use the marks on the face of the gears and if so how do I line
> them
> up? The dizzy seems easy once I have the rest set. line the index on the
> body with the button and I'm in business.
>
> Any help would be great. Need to know what to line up to get a starting
> point.
>
> Thanks
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "scirocco scirocco" <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:03 AM
> Subject: Re: 92 Jetta Digi no start problems
>
>
>> did ether and I can smell it when I've got the plugs out and if I've
>> tired
>
>> starting it for awhile. sure it's getting fuel.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Lagnese" <jlagnese@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "'David Brown'" <sharpshooter33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'scirocco
>> scirocco'"
>
>> <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:27 AM
>> Subject: RE: 92 Jetta Digi no start problems
>>
>>
>> Are you getting fuel? Give it a shot of ether and see if it fires. That
>> will
>> most likely point to a fuel (pump) concern.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Brown [mailto:sharpshooter33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:45 PM
>> To: scirocco scirocco
>> Subject: OT: 92 Jetta Digi no start problems
>>
>> Ok here's where I am. I've checked fuel getting plenty, so it's some
>> place
>> with spark and timing
>>
>> I've replaced: plugs and coil
>> tested hall sensor and ICU. I'm getting signal from hall.
>> I also tested compression 3 of 4 tested around 125psi. Other one was
>> alittle
>> low(90psi) but that shouldn't cause a complete no start.
>>
>> PO stated he had it running after sitting for along time. He reset the
>> timing marks on the cam and water pump pulley's. Then put new plug wires
>> and distributor cap on. He set the dizzy and got it to run for about a
>> day
>> then it quit and wouldn't start again.
>>
>> I'm pretty convinced that the dizzy timing is FUBAR'd.
>>
>> It turns over, but doesn't even appear to fire at all. I've pulled the
>> plugs and they show spark. Looks weak to me, but I'm used to looking at
>> HEI
>> so it's probably fine especially with the new coil.
>>
>> My questions are this:
>> 1. Is there a quick and easy to set the dizzy timing?
>> 2. Is there any other things I should check?
>>
>> I'm planning on checking the signal all the way thru the hall thru the
>> digi,
>> icu, and to the coil, but I'm pretty sure that's not it.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> David
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