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92 Jetta Digi no start problems UPDATE



Ok here's my state of affairs on this problem
I found the line up hole in the tranny case. Nice little arrow.  turned the 
motor until it locked up one way and was hard to turn. turned it the other 
way until it showed the 0 and 8 lines. it hungup right before the 0.  The 
timing marks on the camshaft and intermediate are FUBAR by what I can tell 
from the Bentley.  I didn't find a line or dot on the back of the camshaft 
crank that would match up with the outside of the casing shown in the pic in 
the Bentley.  I will look again tomorrow since I was in a hurry tonight.

I pulled the timing belt off, because it just didn't look right so I figured 
I would start with a clean slate and line everything up.

Currently I have the crank on the 0 line (I'm wondering what the 8 line is 
for?  probably 8 advance, but when do I use it?)

The lines on the front side of my intermediate and camshaft show a 0 then a 
line then T on one tooth.   The PO used these 2 to line them up both facing 
directly up.  I don't think this was even close and I don't know how he got 
it running.  The Bently shows lining up the dot on the back and not the 
writing on the front of the camshaft gear.  The line on the intermediate is 
shown lined up with a groove in the crank vibration dampener.

I'm so confused.... I got the crank lined up with the tranny housing at 0. 
>From there where do I go?  Do I try to find the marks stated in the Bentley 
or do I use the marks on the face of the gears and if so how do I line them 
up?  The dizzy seems easy once I have the rest set. line the index on the 
body with the button and I'm in business.

Any help would be great.  Need to know what to line up to get a starting 
point.

Thanks
David
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "scirocco scirocco" <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: 92 Jetta Digi no start problems


> did ether and I can smell it when I've got the plugs out and if I've tired 
> starting it for awhile. sure it's getting fuel.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Lagnese" <jlagnese@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'David Brown'" <sharpshooter33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'scirocco scirocco'" 
> <scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:27 AM
> Subject: RE: 92 Jetta Digi no start problems
>
>
> Are you getting fuel? Give it a shot of ether and see if it fires. That 
> will
> most likely point to a fuel (pump) concern.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Brown [mailto:sharpshooter33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:45 PM
> To: scirocco scirocco
> Subject: OT: 92 Jetta Digi no start problems
>
> Ok here's where I am.  I've checked fuel getting plenty, so it's some 
> place
> with spark and timing
>
> I've replaced: plugs and coil
> tested hall sensor and ICU.  I'm getting signal from hall.
> I also tested compression 3 of 4 tested around 125psi. Other one was 
> alittle
> low(90psi) but that shouldn't cause a complete no start.
>
> PO stated he had it running after sitting for along time.  He reset the
> timing marks on the cam and water pump pulley's.  Then put new plug wires
> and distributor cap on.  He set the dizzy and got it to run for about a 
> day
> then it quit and wouldn't start again.
>
> I'm pretty convinced that the dizzy timing is FUBAR'd.
>
> It turns over, but doesn't even appear to fire at all.  I've pulled the
> plugs and they show spark.  Looks weak to me, but I'm used to looking at 
> HEI
> so it's probably fine especially with the new coil.
>
> My questions are this:
> 1. Is there a quick and easy to set the dizzy timing?
> 2. Is there any other things I should check?
>
> I'm planning on checking the signal all the way thru the hall thru the 
> digi,
> icu, and to the coil, but I'm pretty sure that's not it.
>
>
> Thanks
> David
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