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16v w/ turbo
Mike Smith wrote "Also, now that trans have come up, would my AGB hold up to
5-7psi?"
Depending on how much you beat on the car. But your AGB should hold up just
fine with that little boost. I been running an AGB in my 8vT for a year and
a half, and although I have a LSD I have ran 12-15psi no problem. I don't
really launch it hard but I do get on it alot.
For me I still want to go with a longer ratio transmission and that is one
plan I will be doing this winter!
-Brian
85 Scirocco 8vT 01 Jetta 20vT 84 Rabbit GTI
86 Bronze Scirocco 8v
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Smith" <smithma7@gmail.com>
To: "Derrick floyd" <tyrone27@gmail.com>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: 16v w/ turbo
> Well, from what I've read, 10psi looks to be more than I want or need.
> I appreciated Derrick's response. Pretty much what I was looking
> for. It seems that 5-7 is more what I'm looking for. Considering
> Derrick's list of what to do for 10, what about 5-7 on a PL?
>
> Also, now that trans have come up, would my AGB hold up to 5-7psi?
>
> On 1/3/07, Derrick floyd <tyrone27@gmail.com> wrote:
>> yes you can run a 4K on a turbo car but it will have short gears and
>> wheel
>> spin like crazy in boost. I ran a 4K with boost. and it sucked gas and
>> I
>> had no useable power really until 5th gear and I could only do like 110
>> on
>> it.
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/07, Jeff Toomasson <area53@validpath.com> wrote:
>> > As Dan said earlier, Mike - search the Vortex for "junkyard turbo" or
>> "$500
>> > turbo". You can do it pretty decently if you pay attention. The only
>> > thing
>> you
>> > might have trouble with from a cost standpoint is the manifold and DP
>> which you
>> > don't appear to have the skills to do yourself....
>> >
>> > One thing I want to point out is that your CIS-E is terrible for forced
>> > induction on its own - possibly the worst of all the CIS setups. Check
>> Peter
>> > Tong's threads about his CIS ventures.
>> >
>> > Regardless of what you decide to do, don't plead w/ Dan to spoon-feed
>> > you.
>> Just
>> > READ. :)
>> >
>> > > So, let's consider putting turbo on the PL and running 10 psi. What
>> would
>> > > need to be done internally, etc to make sure that the engine would
>> > > run
>> with
>> > > no problems and last a while. I don't want to go big nor do I want
>> > > to
>> be
>> > > replacing stuff because it can't handle it.
>> > >
>> > > Also, at this point, please don't think I'm planning on going out and
>> > > purchasing supplies and making this happen now. This is all just
>> > >speculation in order to help me understand what can be done and decide
>> which
>> > >I way I eventually want to go. Thanks for the info, Dan.
>> > >
>> > > On 1/3/07, Dan Bubb <jdbubb@verizon.net> wrote:
>> > >> There are lots of ways you can go with a turbo.
>> > >> You can leave the engine internally stock, run limited boost, use
>> > >> your
>> > >> stock CIS and count on your stock knock sensor to prevent detonation
>> from
>> > >> killing your engine. The boost would be pretty limited, but even 4-5
>> psi
>> > >> would make your Scirocco faster than your GTI. You can find some way
>> > >> to
>> > >> lower the CR, double head gaskets, 16V head on an 8V block, forged
>> lower
>> > >> CR pistons, then run more boost simply because with the lower CR the
>> > >> engine will be less likely to detonate. Then you can start adding
>> > >> more
>> > >> sophisticated engine controls. MSD boost retard doesn't give you
>> > >> much
>> > >> control, but seems to work pretty well. Programmable engine
>> > >> management
>> > >> gives you as much control as you'll need but you need to know how to
>> tune,
>> > >> and/or have the tools to tune it. Having better engine controls will
>> let
>> > >> you run more boost. Adding things like intercoolers or water
>> > >> injection
>> or
>> > >> running race gas/toluene/octane booster will all let you run more
>> > >> boost
>> > >> for a given engine specification.
>> > >>
>> > >> If you want big power you have to have an appropriate CR and the
>> > >> engine
>> > >> controls to go with it. If you want a little boost you can get away
>> with
>> > >> the infamous Vortex "I turboed my engine for $500". Dan
>> > >>
>> > >> From: "Mike Smith" < smithma7@gmail.com>
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:51 PM
>> > >> Subject: 16v w/ turbo
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > With all this talk of 16v heads and blocks and 8v varieties of
>> > >> > both
>> in 3
>> > >> > or 4 different threads, I'm getting a little confused trying to
>> follow
>> > >> > it all.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Given:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 1) I like 16v engines
>> > >> > 2) I really like the turbo on Bib
>> > >> > 3) I like the idea of Megasquirt (as well as Spark)
>> > >> > 4) I like thinking about bringing all 3 together somehow but am
>> clueless
>> > >> > :).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Given the above, what would be the optimum set-up for a 16v turbo
>> > >> > application in Red? (Is that a vague enough question?) As far as
>> type
>> > >> > of performance: I'm not looking to really race it or anything;
>> > >> > just
>> > >> > decent street performance while still being able to tickle to butt
>> dyno
>> > >> > and wow passengers.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Mike
>> > >> > '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
>> > >> > '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
>> > >> > "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King
>> Crimson
>> > >> >
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>> > > Mike
>> > > '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
>> > > '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
>> > > "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King
>> > > Crimson
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> Mike
> '86 red 16v: Red 5 (aka der Jahrtausendfeierfalke)
> '05 Indigo Blue GTI 1.8T: Bib
> "The world is my oyster soup kitchen floor wax museum." - King Crimson
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